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NorCal WeatherCatters . . . Did you feel da' quake!?!?!
« on: August 24, 2014, 09:16:57 PM »
Dear Northern California WeatherCat users,

This morning mother Earth very rudely gave me a 3:20 am wake up call.  By the time I was awake enough to realize it was an earthquake, it was almost over.  My groggy brain quickly assessed the situation and concluded it was one of those nuisance 4.x magnitude quakes that infrequently hit the San Francisco East Bay.  A 4.x quake = no big deal and I promptly . . . . went back to sleep!  [bed]

However, attempting to judge the pins on the WeatherCat forum member's map, there might be some of you who got a more substantial shake.  Anybody in WeatherCat land have a story to tell about the 6.0 American Canyon quake?

Cheers, Edouard  [cheers1]

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Re: NorCal WeatherCatters . . . Did you feel da' quake!?!?!
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2014, 05:49:17 AM »
Glad to hear you're OK Edouard! Here in the midwest near the Missouri border, we're waiting for the big one to pop again; the New Madrid. Every now and again, i think I feel it, but then I realize it's just my wobbly knees. ? Or is it?
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Re: NorCal WeatherCatters . . . Did you feel da' quake!?!?!
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2014, 07:39:34 AM »
Every now and again, i think I feel it, but then I realize it's just my wobbly knees. ? Or is it?

Speaking of wobbly knees, I purchased that Treat Your Own Neck book you recommended to me in another thread, and it is a big winner. Thanks for the heads up! (I'm not trying to be funny here, but it is kind of clever to treat your own neck so you can hold your head up.)
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Re: NorCal WeatherCatters . . . Did you feel da' quake!?!?!
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2014, 03:59:48 PM »
Glad to hear it, Blick! It's really all about PT or physical therapy. Of course it depends on what your injury is. Some conditions can't be self treated, like a ruptured disc or fracture. They need the guidance of x-rays and doctors. But, if your problem just crept up on you with age, chances are you can beat it with PT.

I got introduced to PT while working in Michigan. My neck went stiff and painful overnight, because of a job I did at work which had me in a bind. I was working in awkward position on a ladder, with my head extended back and tilted up for an extended period and no support. It was a 24/7 pain. I was getting little sleep. Thought I'd have to have an operation. My doctor prescribed PREDNISolone, a steroid that was to knock down the inflammation and relieve the pain. Then she set me up with a PT clinic where the treatment was exercise of the joints in my neck. To my amazement, it worked. Over about a 5 week period, the pain gradually went away and my life was back to normal.

Then after retirement in 2012, it happened again but different. I had worked pretty hard at digging a trench with my head tilted forward and down. No huge pain, like before. But, I couldn't straighten my neck without my right arm suffering a pain that felt like a giant bone bruise. I even got to where I couldn't drive. The VA gave me non-narcotic NSAIDS and muscle relaxers. So, I dug out my old PT homework sheets and started the self treatment again. About 3 months later I was as good as new. I try to do a little each day now. Only takes about 5 minutes or less.

Hope it gets you some relief! I know it can be stressful and debilitating.
Herb

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Re: NorCal WeatherCatters . . . Did you feel da' quake!?!?!
« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2014, 04:56:53 PM »
Then after retirement in 2012...

Mmm, retirement - can't wait!

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Who is less prepared?? (Re: Did you feel da' quake!?!?!)
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2014, 09:29:49 PM »
Hi Herb, Blick Stu, and WeatherCat  ;) rock'n'rollers . . . . .  [rock] . . . . . .  [lol2]

Glad to hear you're OK Edouard! Here in the midwest near the Missouri border, we're waiting for the big one to pop again; the New Madrid. Every now and again, i think I feel it, but then I realize it's just my wobbly knees. ? Or is it?

You are correct Herb.  If the New Madrid fault never blows up, it will be cataclysmic disaster.  Certainly, buildings outside of the west coast of the United States weren't built to the same earthquake standards.  I'm not sure it has changed to this day.  It is hard to believe the amount of damage that was done to the Washington Memorial by an earthquake!

Alas, I wonder if California is really much better prepared.  You'd think that wineries in California would have their bottles stored in such a way that they could withstand at least a 6.0 earthquake .  . .  [rolleyes2]

Oh well, . . . . .

Cheers, Edouard

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Re: NorCal WeatherCatters . . . Did you feel da' quake!?!?!
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2014, 02:44:12 AM »
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? You'd think that wineries in California would have their bottles stored in such a way that they could withstand at least a 6.0 earthquake ?

Probably just cheaper to buy the insurance and cross your fingers.

Oh, it's going to be worse than you can imagine, if New Madrid does what it did in 1811 again. I didn't realize it until I just looked it up, but the 1811 - 1812 event was actually 4 magnitude 7 - 8 earthquakes in less than 2 months. Because of the geologic history of the Mississippi River, everything from St. Louis to Memphis is nothing but sedimentary embayment. The sonic waves travel through it almost as well as it does through ocean water.

From Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1811?12_New_Madrid_earthquakes

The four earthquakes

December 16, 1811, 0815 UTC (2:15 a.m.); (M ~7.2 ? 8.1) epicenter in northeast Arkansas. It caused only slight damage to man-made structures, mainly because of the sparse population in the epicentral area. The future location of Memphis, Tennessee, experienced level IX shaking on the Mercalli intensity scale. A seismic seiche propagated upriver, and Little Prairie (a village that was on the site of the former Fort San Fernando, near the site of present-day Caruthersville, Missouri) was heavily damaged by soil liquefaction.

December 16, 1811, 1315 UTC (7:15 a.m.); (M ~7.2?8.1) epicenter in northeast Arkansas. This shock followed the first earthquake by six hours and was similar in intensity.

January 23, 1812, 1515 UTC (9:15 a.m.); (M ~7.0?7.8 ) epicenter in the Missouri Bootheel. The meizoseismal area was characterized by general ground warping, ejections, fissuring, severe landslides, and caving of stream banks. Johnson and Schweig attributed this earthquake to a rupture on the New Madrid North Fault. This may have placed strain on the Reelfoot Fault.

February 7, 1812, 0945 UTC (3:45 a.m.); (M ~7.4?8.0) epicenter near New Madrid, Missouri. New Madrid was destroyed. At St. Louis, Missouri, many houses were severely damaged, and their chimneys were toppled. This shock was definitively attributed to the Reelfoot Fault by Johnston and Schweig. Uplift along a segment of this reverse fault created temporary waterfalls on the Mississippi at Kentucky Bend, created waves that propagated upstream, and caused the formation of Reelfoot Lake by obstructing streams in what is now Lake County, Tennessee.

My location is not so precarious. I'm over toward the center of the Arkansas/Missouri E/W line, just west of Hardy in the foothills of the Ozarks. The land under me, and for miles in the direction of New Madrid, is very ancient eroded plain of the Salem Plateau. It is Ordovician dolostones, sandstones and limestones. We might feel it here, but it probably wont do much, if any, damage. The Ordovician period ended about 443.7 million years ago.



Still, the more immediate concern is the San Andreas fault and its surrounding faults, which have the propensity to rock the ground almost as hard and much more often. Glad to hear your area was spared!
Herb

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« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2014, 09:35:42 PM »
Hi Herb and WeatherCat Earth watchers,

Oh, it's going to be worse than you can imagine, if New Madrid does what it did in 1811 again. I didn't realize it until I just looked it up, but the 1811 - 1812 event was actually 4 magnitude 7 - 8 earthquakes in less than 2 months.

Yes, I was familiar with the historical sequence of events and the amazing things observed by the handful of residence in the area at the time.  There is no doubt, if something like that happened again, the combination of soil conditions and lack of seismic retrofitting will result in a lot of casualties and damage.

Still, the more immediate concern is the San Andreas fault and its surrounding faults, which have the propensity to rock the ground almost as hard and much more often. Glad to hear your area was spared!

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? You'd think that wineries in California would have their bottles stored in such a way that they could withstand at least a 6.0 earthquake ?

Probably just cheaper to buy the insurance and cross your fingers.

Cheaper?  - I rather doubt it.  Alas, all across the United States, denial appears to be much cheaper . . . . . until you are proven wrong.  Of course then it is . . . . . too late!  [banghead]

Oh well, . . . . .

Cheers, Edouard