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« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2020, 11:18:41 pm »
Dear nickg and WeatherCat troubleshooters,

Can somebody help

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The problem I now have is my Weatherlink IP keeps crashing - becomes unreachable - which requires me to physically power it down by disconnecting it from the console and the powering it back up again. 

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Now would a Meteobridge Pro Red be the best solution here? 

Unfortunately, there aren't a lot of us who use Meteobridge.  WeatherCat provides essentially the same functionality and needs to run 24/7 to provide a website with continuous updating.  There is at least one hard core fan of Meteobridge, but I haven't seen him on the forum in a long time.

You might be better off asking this sort of question of a general interest weather forum like WXForum:

http://www.wxforum.net/

It has many more members and much more traffic.  I would expect there are plenty of Meteobridge users there and they would be in a much better position to answer your questions.

Please do come back here and let us know how you solve your problem so we can share the wisdom with the next WeatherCat user with a analogous problem.

Cheers, Edouard

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Re: Try WXForum? (Re: General information on Meteobridge)
« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2020, 11:36:33 pm »
There is at least one hard core fan of Meteobridge, but I haven't seen him on the forum in a long time.


How long??
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Re: General information on Meteobridge - Pros and Cons (??)
« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2020, 12:44:47 am »
I think Edouard is talking about you dfw!! I just hope you are keeping busy supporting my retirement fund!!! ThU5:-)  [lol]

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Re: General information on Meteobridge - Pros and Cons (??)
« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2020, 02:52:57 am »
LOL!

I’m peddling as hard as I can!!
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Re: General information on Meteobridge - Pros and Cons (??)
« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2020, 09:27:17 am »
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Now would a Meteobridge Pro Red be the best solution here?  Replaces the console/Weatherlink IP and is remotely re-bootable - I can power it down remotely via the UPS.
If you do not have WiFi at the remote location, you should use the Meteobridge Pro Red which is more expensive and receives the data directly from the ISS

If your console is still working correctly and you have WiFi, you can also use a Meteobridge_nano  which physically replaces your IP-logger.
Same size but it needs WiFi, not a cable,  to connect to your network.

All other Meteobridge devices need a console/Envoy and a logger.
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Am I right in thinking I can get WeatherCat to pull the same data from the Meteobridge and still build all the custom graphs for my website - as it does with the current set up? 
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Yes, a Meteobridge (of any type) can be used by 1 (one) other weather-program.
The Meteobridge-IP with port 22222  can be used in Weathercat as if it is a Davis-IP logger.

Important in your case ( 500 mile roundtrip)
You can remotely and securely log-in to your Meteobridge (of any type) and, if needed, also reboot or reload new firmware versions a.s.o.
So if there is a problem, f.i. caused by the console (when using a Nano), you can check the Meteobridge log remotely. Or the developer of Meteobridge can investigate your setup to find the cause of any problems

https://www.meteobridge.com/wiki/index.php/System
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Meteobridge offers a feature that allows you to login from the Internet without the need to configure your router accordingly. This feature is turned off per default to maximize your Internet security. When you switch this service on it will take 5 minutes until your Meteobridge is available per an individual URL from the Internet. It is highly recommended to set your Meteobridge password to a non-default value and not to share this URL with the public, to avoid that other persons log in to your Meteobridge web interface. Technical solution behind this is, that on your request the Meteobridge builds up a ssh tunnel to a dedicated gateway server in the Internet, where this tunnel can be used to login to your Meteobridge. Communication to this gateway server is done via HTTPS to make sure data is not compromised. Gateway server is managed by the developers of the Meteobridge software, smartbedded UG. If you are behind a company grade firewall limiting outgoing traffic or forced to use a http proxy, this solution might not work, but in majority of cases it should work.

There is 1 alternative, the WiFilogger but that does not has that remote login "out of the box"

You can also continue to upload to WeatherLink.com using the Meteobridge/WiFilogger, you use the DID (Mac) of the IP logger in the device-setup

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Re: General information on Meteobridge - Pros and Cons (??)
« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2020, 04:17:01 pm »
Hi,
I don't know about the WLIP, but might suggest an option for remote reboot. My brother has a DVR at his home that "gets stuck" every now and then. He spends part of the year in Florida, so can't reboot it. He now plugs the DVR into a Wemo smart wifi outlet, so he can reboot it from anywhere using the Wemo iPhone app. Maybe this would work for your WLIP.

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Re: General information on Meteobridge - Pros and Cons (??)
« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2020, 05:43:12 pm »

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Yes, a Meteobridge (of any type) can be used by 1 (one) other weather-program.
The Meteobridge-IP with port 22222  can be used in Weathercat as if it is a Davis-IP logger.

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Can you help me with this?  WeatherCat cannot detect the Meteobridge Red when entering its IP address - even if I add x.x.x.x:22222 to the end?  Is it possible to get WeatherCat two pull data from the Meteobridge?

I have now built redundancy with two consoles - one (old) IP Logger and one new WiFi Logger 2 - so can switch between the two if one fails.  The Meteobridge is triple redundancy - and an development platform for the future

Thank you for all of your help

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Re: General information on Meteobridge - Pros and Cons (??)
« Reply #22 on: February 18, 2020, 09:26:36 pm »

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Yes, a Meteobridge (of any type) can be used by 1 (one) other weather-program.
The Meteobridge-IP with port 22222  can be used in Weathercat as if it is a Davis-IP logger.

Can you help me with this?  WeatherCat cannot detect the Meteobridge Red when entering its IP address - even if I add x.x.x.x:22222 to the end?  Is it possible to get WeatherCat two pull data from the Meteobridge?

I have now built redundancy with two consoles - one (old) IP Logger and one new WiFi Logger 2 - so can switch between the two if one fails.  The Meteobridge is triple redundancy - and an development platform for the future

Thank you for all of your help
Just select the IP-address, no port for the WLip logger
WeatherCat will find the Meteobridge in less then 1 second
Select Gauges from the Tools dropdown and you will see the data coming in in WeatherCat

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Re: General information on Meteobridge - Pros and Cons (??)
« Reply #23 on: February 19, 2020, 01:53:26 pm »
Thanks - have tried that but no luck.  I think it is because I am not using the usual Meteobridge set up:

Davis Console -> logger -> Meteobridge -> WeatherCat

My IP logger failed and since it is discontinued - and WetherLink Live (which replaces it) seems to be a closed environment (i.e. no way to send data to third party weather software) I have put in a Meteobridge Pro RED - which has its own wireless receiver for Davis weather stations - thereby replacing the console and logger as well.  A single piece of kit.  It is a hugely able piece of kit I am still exploring but haven’t found a way to export/send the data it receives to WeatherCat to process the charts for my website. 

Has anybody managed to do this?   

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Ask the Meteobridge forum? (Was: Meteobridge - Pros and Cons)
« Reply #24 on: February 20, 2020, 11:38:15 pm »
Dear nickg and WeatherCat troubleshooters,

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I have put in a Meteobridge Pro RED - which has its own wireless receiver for Davis weather stations - thereby replacing the console and logger as well.  A single piece of kit.  It is a hugely able piece of kit I am still exploring but haven’t found a way to export/send the data it receives to WeatherCat to process the charts for my website. 

Has anybody managed to do this?

Since no one else came to your rescue, I made an attempt to understand how the Meteobridge Pro works.  Unfortunately, I didn't see anything that looks like the "pass through" feature that does exist on the Meteobridge replacements for the Davis data loggers.

However, it is possible there has to be one place where you could ask your question.  There is a forum devoted to Meteobridge and Meteobridge Pro:

https://forum.meteohub.de/viewforum.php?f=54&sid=40c4b94fd00927c11c45ebf3cb7dcb33

Why don't you ask your question over there and see if they can explain how to do it. 

If you get an procedure, could you please share it with us so that we can help the next person who decides to buy a Meteobridge Pro?

Thanks in advance,

Edouard  [cheers1]

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Re: General information on Meteobridge - Pros and Cons (??)
« Reply #25 on: February 21, 2020, 10:10:11 am »
Thanks - have tried that but no luck.  I think it is because I am not using the usual Meteobridge set up:
Davis Console -> logger -> Meteobridge -> WeatherCat
My IP logger failed and since it is discontinued - and WetherLink Live (which replaces it) seems to be a closed environment (i.e. no way to send data to third party weather software) I have put in a Meteobridge Pro RED - which has its own wireless receiver for Davis weather stations - thereby replacing the console and logger as well.  A single piece of kit.  It is a hugely able piece of kit I am still exploring but haven’t found a way to export/send the data it receives to WeatherCat to process the charts for my website. 
Has anybody managed to do this?
As you already said: 
This wil work:  Davis Console (reads RF data ISS) -> logger (sends loop-packets if requested)  -> Meteobridge  (sends loop-packets if requested) -> WeatherCat
Any Meteobridge which is connected to a logger+Console/Envoy can function in "pass-through" mode and accept commands from a weather-program and pass it to the logger and  gets the answer (use that for its own purposes)  and pass it to the wether-program.

Sorry, but it can not be done with a Pro RED.
You are using   Davis ISS -> RF-receiver built in MeteobridgeRed
A Pro red has no contact to a logger in a Console/Envoy.   Therefor it can not go into passive "pass-through" mode

A Pro-Red is a combination of a Pro-Black (needs a logger) + a built-in Meteostick.
A Meteostick is a RF receiver which reads the ISS transmissions and hands them as "text" to the connected device.
So there are no Davis loop-packets which is the data WeatherCat expects.
https://www.meteobridge.com/wiki/index.php/Stations => Meteostick
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Meteobridge does not offer pass through options for Meteostick as with the Davis loggers.

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