Sierra for Mac - seems to break weathercat :-(

[tizza]

Hey xairbusdriver, good point!

I always shutdown all software before an upgrade and I actually must admit I didn't see that box when going from 10.12 to 10.12.1
I do have a loose USB cable to my Davis Vantage Vue however and if bumped or jiggled to hard it will drop the connection, it's been doing that since El Capitan so I need a new USB lead. The SilLabs USB driver hasn't given me a single problem though.

I'm approaching the 20-24HR mark now and needed one restart due to kicking my USB cable free, LOL. It started back up immediately though once I shut WC down and re attached the USB cable and re launched WC. (EDIT) I just checked the World Clock and it's almost 24HRS, World time zone conversion is a pain but part of most Aussie's life online. 

I'm still having the problem with the rainfall being regenerated and doubled every time I restart WC though. Is there a fix for this?

Kindest Paul

[elagache]

Dear Paul and WeatherCat troubleshooters,

I'm still having the problem with the rainfall being regenerated and doubled every time I restart WC though. Is there a fix for this?

I'm not aware of any sort of problem like this.  Could you please start a new thread on this topic?:

http://athena.trixology.com/index.php?board=13.0

Lots of people scan through the subjects of posts and so your question will most likely be overlooked when tacked on to another topic.

Please tell us anything you know about the problem like when it started, more details about your Mac and station, and anything else that you can think of that might help us troubleshoot the problem.

Cheers, Edouard 

[scphillipp1]

Update, I've switched my weather station from usb to the web version and as long as I don't have the video preview open on my desktop it doesn't ever crash. That was my fix. I never did get the other upload way to work. If I try and have the video preview open, it crashes about every 15 minutes.

[Blicj11]

Interesting report. When the live video preview tool is open, it changes the video sampling rate from 5 minutes (or whatever you have it set for in webcam preferences to 2 seconds. For this reason, it usually not recommended to keep that window open constantly.

[tizza]

So I've had macOS Sierra 10.12.1 running for 4 days now with little to no major problems. It's dropped the SilLabs driver a couple of times and the USB to UQAT vanishes but this has been happening every time I've upgraded since Mavericks. It usually goes away after a week or two, if this happens just run the .sh file thru terminal and reload it

Now take a REALLY GOOD LOOK AT THIS PHOTO!!! It appeared yesterday and will NOT QUIT!!

IDEAS lovely people


 

[elagache]

Dear Paul and WeatherCat "now I've seen everything!!" types, . . . 

Now take a REALLY GOOD LOOK AT THIS PHOTO!!! It appeared yesterday and will NOT QUIT!!

IDEAS lovely people

  . . . . Look, . . .  I was at Cal Berkeley from 1979 to 1995 to ultimately get a PhD.  When you spend that much time around the city of Berkeley you get used to just about anything!! . . . . 

Uh seriously that is really, really wrong.

Could you open up the terminal and run this UNIX command:

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ps ax | grep weathercat
When I run it I get this:

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  736   ??  S      0:04.03 python /Applications/WeatherCat/WeatherCat.app/Contents/Resources/Support_Applications/reboot_weathercat.py /Applications/WeatherCat/WeatherCat.app/Contents/MacOS/WeatherCat
97826 s000  S+     0:00.00 grep weathercat
The number 736 corresponds to WeatherCat application process.  The second line is the UNIX command that generated the data.  If what you are seeing is real you should see 2 processes like the 736 process.

Also, which version of WeatherCat are you running?  The WeatherCat icon looks a bit odd to me.

Let us know what you come up with  . . . .

Edouard

[tizza]

Dear Paul and WeatherCat "now I've seen everything!!" types, . . . 

Now take a REALLY GOOD LOOK AT THIS PHOTO!!! It appeared yesterday and will NOT QUIT!!

IDEAS lovely people

  . . . . Look, . . .  I was at Cal Berkeley from 1979 to 1995 to ultimately get a PhD.  When you spend that much time around the city of Berkeley you get used to just about anything!! . . . . 

Uh seriously that is really, really wrong.

HILARIUOS!

Could you open up the terminal and run this UNIX command:

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ps ax | grep weathercat
When I run it I get this:

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  736   ??  S      0:04.03 python /Applications/WeatherCat/WeatherCat.app/Contents/Resources/Support_Applications/reboot_weathercat.py /Applications/WeatherCat/WeatherCat.app/Contents/MacOS/WeatherCat
97826 s000  S+     0:00.00 grep weathercat
The number 736 corresponds to WeatherCat application process.  The second line is the UNIX command that generated the data.  If what you are seeing is real you should see 2 processes like the 736 process.

Also, which version of WeatherCat are you running?  The WeatherCat icon looks a bit odd to me.

Let us know what you come up with  . . . .

Edouard

Thank you kind sir, I'm running WC V.2.4
I got this from terminal: 47804   ??  S      0:00.13 python /Applications/WeatherCat 2.4/WeatherCat.app/Contents/Resources/Support_Applications/reboot_weathercat.py /Applications/WeatherCat 2.4/WeatherCat.app/Contents/MacOS/WeatherCat

AND

48053 s000  R+     0:00.00 grep weathercat

Thanks Paul,  and it's just a crappy photo Edouard. I couldn't get a screen shot and had to use my iPhone

[tizza]

Thank you kind sir, I'm running WC V.2.4
I got this from terminal: 47804   ??  S      0:00.13 python /Applications/WeatherCat 2.4/WeatherCat.app/Contents/Resources/Support_Applications/reboot_weathercat.py /Applications/WeatherCat 2.4/WeatherCat.app/Contents/MacOS/WeatherCat

AND

48053 s000  R+     0:00.00 grep weathercat

Thanks Paul,  and it's just a crappy photo Edouard. I couldn't get a screen shot and had to use my iPhone

[elagache]

Dear Paul and WeatherCat troubleshooters,

Thank you kind sir, I'm running WC V.2.4
I got this from terminal: 47804   ??  S      0:00.13 python /Applications/WeatherCat 2.4/WeatherCat.app/Contents/Resources/Support_Applications/reboot_weathercat.py /Applications/WeatherCat 2.4/WeatherCat.app/Contents/MacOS/WeatherCat

AND

48053 s000  R+     0:00.00 grep weathercat

*Heavy sigh*, . . . . according to the UNIX, there is only one WeatherCat process actually running.  So the reason that you can't quit the other process is because it doesn't really exist.  Alas, this has to be another Sierra bug.  Wow!  That's not a minor bug either.

I suggest you try rebooting and see if that makes the phantom go away.  However, if anybody else is thinking about upgrading to Sierra - uh, perhaps not.  In addition to this bug, there is apparently a really crazy bug in AppleScript.  On that evidence alone . . . I would take Stu's advice and wait for at least a major round of bug fixes.

Oh well, . . . . . Edouard

[Felix]

 

 4606   ??  S      0:17.42 python /Applications/WeatherCat/WeatherCat.app/Contents/Resources/Support_Applications/reboot_weathercat.py /Applications/WeatherCat/WeatherCat.app/Contents/MacOS/WeatherCat
99073 s000  S+     0:00.00 grep weathercat

[tizza]

Dear Paul and WeatherCat troubleshooters,

Thank you kind sir, I'm running WC V.2.4
I got this from terminal: 47804   ??  S      0:00.13 python /Applications/WeatherCat 2.4/WeatherCat.app/Contents/Resources/Support_Applications/reboot_weathercat.py /Applications/WeatherCat 2.4/WeatherCat.app/Contents/MacOS/WeatherCat

AND

48053 s000  R+     0:00.00 grep weathercat

*Heavy sigh*, . . . . according to the UNIX, there is only one WeatherCat process actually running.  So the reason that you can't quit the other process is because it doesn't really exist.  Alas, this has to be another Sierra bug.  Wow!  That's not a minor bug either.

I suggest you try rebooting and see if that makes the phantom go away.  However, if anybody else is thinking about upgrading to Sierra - uh, perhaps not.  In addition to this bug, there is apparently a really crazy bug in AppleScript.  On that evidence alone . . . I would take Stu's advice and wait for at least a major round of bug fixes.

Oh well, . . . . . Edouard

YEP, I forgot to mention that, it's not showing up in the Activity Monitor?

AND A SIMPLE RESTART SOLVED THE PROBLEM, I ran the SilLabs uninstaller first, then I restarted the puter re-installed the SilLabs driver and all is good in the world again. Oh and before I did that I checked the Systems Report and found that I had 2, yes 2 CP2102 USB to UART Bridge Controller running. The SilLabs uninstaller.sh would not remove them either UNTIL i rebooted the puter and then they were gone.

SO I'm putting a suggestion forward that's worked twice for me now on macOS Sierra, if your mac says it can't find your weather station, run the uninstaller.sh in terminal enter your password when prompted. Restart your computer reinstall your driver CP2102 USB to UART Bridge Controller and open weathercat again.

This is one fix for me that has worked twice now, good luck   

[xairbusdriver]

In case you've lost it, here's the link to the driver: Suitable for 10.5 through 10.11 (and apparently works in 10.12) (and apparently works in 10.12)

Note to Admin(s) [hopefully there is more than one!]:
This thread continues to grow but the request to start a new one concerning the Silab driver has yet t be moved. As it is now over a page by itself, it's probably asking to much of the OP to start a new one and copy and paste all the others. I am assuming the forum software makes this a relatively easy job for the Admin(s). I'd be glad to help but I don't have the secret incantations and handshakes required.

[elagache]

Dear Paul and WeatherCat troubleshooters,

YEP, I forgot to mention that, it's not showing up in the Activity Monitor?

AND A SIMPLE RESTART SOLVED THE PROBLEM

Okay, it is always a good idea to make sure you don't have more than one driver, but having two drivers could not have caused the strange force-quit window you included in your earlier posting.  I'm not surprised that restarting your computer got rid of the phantom WeatherCat "process," but that simply should never happen.  I don't know what Apple is doing, but it is an extremely serious bug to have in a "stable" version of macOS.

So I again recommend that those who have upgraded to Sierra be extra careful and that anyone who hasn't upgraded hold off unless they desperately need a bit of Sierra functionality.

Edouard

[tizza]

Dear Paul and WeatherCat troubleshooters,

author=tizza link=topic=2209.msg22401#msg22401 date=1477999474]
YEP, I forgot to mention that, it's not showing up in the Activity Monitor?

AND A SIMPLE RESTART SOLVED THE PROBLEM

Okay, it is always a good idea to make sure you don't have more than one driver, but having two drivers could not have caused the strange force-quit window you included in your earlier posting.

I didn't install 2 different drivers or install the same driver twice, it just appeared out of nowhere. I was listening to an audiobook, checked WC and it was fine then I checked the weather again about 40mins later and it had just appeared. That's why I took that photo and I hadn't touched my computer at all during that time. I didn't even check my mail 

I'm not surprised that restarting your computer got rid of the phantom WeatherCat "process," but that simply should never happen.  I don't know what Apple is doing, but it is an extremely serious bug to have in a "stable" version of macOS.

I couldn't agree more, it's by far the weirdest thing I've ever seen WC do in all the years I've owned it. It was just freaky. Oh and I had looked thru the system menu maybe 2HRS before that and the second SilLabs driver was not there

So I again recommend that those who have upgraded to Sierra be extra careful and that anyone who hasn't upgraded hold off unless they desperately need a bit of Sierra functionality.

Edouard
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[elagache]

Dear Paul and WeatherCat troubleshooters,

I didn't install 2 different drivers or install the same driver twice, it just appeared out of nowhere.

Sorry, you have to understand my jaded sense when it comes to Macs misbehaving.  I didn't mean at all to suggest that you had anything to do with the two drivers.  On the contrary, all I meant is that - *sigh* - I've seen the installer fail to remove a previous driver.  However, I haven't see it do any harm on my computer.  Nonetheless that might not be true for everybody  Therefore, it is a good idea to look to see if there are multiple drivers and when troubleshooting connection problems,  it is indeed prudent to remove all existing drivers and then try a fresh installation. 

There is a procedure to manually delete drivers, but I've forgotten what it is and it never made it to the Wiki.  Does anybody remember how to dig into the file system and manually delete all driver files?

Edouard