Coming to a computer in front of YOU: macOS Sierra

[Bull Winkus]

Here is a video from 9to5Mac that does a very good job of going over many of the new features of macOS Sierra. It's about 24 minutes long, so go to the bathroom first. None of the 24 minutes are wasted, though. For the first time in a long time, Apple is coming through with an OS upgrade that is not just cosmetic. Finally, ? yes finally, using and managing your computer is going to improve significantly! All you hold outs, not yet on Mavericks or El Capitan (and you know who you are) will see plenty of reason to give  to Sierra!

Enjoy, and discuss as needed.

 

[xairbusdriver]

And even though it's not even available for use (it's only recently available to developers), there are already negative nellies out there calling it useless and worse. I usually wait several weeks, often until after the first update, to a new version of OSX (now called Mac OS, BTW, we're finally through with the doubly redundant OS X 10 stupidity... ) but I know of many who jump right in on the first day of availability. Here's a link to an <article> by Adam C. Engst, TidBITS publisher, debunking the already spreading Sierra 'myths'.

[Weatheraardvark]

Being new to MacOS   I have El Captian and having the new version next fall might be fun.

[elagache]

Dear Herb, Weatheraardvark, and WeatherCat oldtimers who remember when using a Mac was . . . . . S-s-s-simple . . . . 

Yesterday, I finally managed to move my sister's computing data from an iMac to a MacBook Pro.  It is still running Mavericks and even so, it took me several days of pulling teeth.  Anyone who believes that OS X really isn't UNIX underneath - surprise!!

Here is a video from 9to5Mac

Well at least I could download that and can watch it tonight on da' big screen!

that does a very good job of going over many of the new features of macOS Sierra.

Yeah, but does it list which of the features of macOS Sierra will actually be bug-free and usable when it is released? . . .   Lest you face da' alternative . . .

Also, do they mention if Silicon Labs will actually release a driver that they guarantee will work with Sierra?

All you hold outs, not yet on Mavericks or El Capitan (and you know who you are) will see plenty of reason to give  to Sierra!

Uh, I won't be jumping on this bang wagon very soon. 

I'm still cursing the move to Yosemite . . . . when you guys insisted it was safe to get in da' water . . . .

Grumble, grumble, grumble, . . . . . Edouard . . . 

P.S. No wonder I can't get along with Tim Cook, . . . . he must be a guy who likes mountains and I'm clearly a seashore kind of guy!

P.P.S. and why must macOS be spelled with a lower case m?  MacOS looks perfectly reasonable to me.  Have the guys at Apple stopped using keyboards or something?  . . .

[xairbusdriver]

I won't be jumping on this bang wagon very soon.

Neither will anyone else. It won't even be released until at least the Fall! Relax. And no one is going to be forcing you do update, anyway.

Have the guys at Apple stopped using keyboards or something?

In fact they have. Those things only come with computers, iDevices don't use them. Which points out the probable reason for the lowercase hardware name and the Capitalized "OS". You've already been using the lowercase "i" for all those mobile devices. The Mac (devolved from Macintosh) has been the holdout mainly because it was a proper name for the other "apple". So, to standardize things, the operating system that is trying to work on every device Apple makes gets the Capital Letters. Besides, Macos just doesn't have the same 'ring' to it... no, it's now watchOS, iOS, macOS... BTW, you may want to change the default spel chequer database or you'll constantly be changing Mac OS into the new and improved macOS.

[Blicj11]

Steve and I will update to Sierra rather early. Won't we Steve?

One of the new features I will use all the time is Copy from your iPhone, Paste on your iMac. This feature was made for me.

[Weatheraardvark]

i remember Windows would come out with a new version and with it a load of fixes and upgrades.   I am going to wait as well on the upgrade until it has been out and either the majority of  users are cheering or booing

Right now I am trying to figure out why the "other" classification on the on disk storage is so large.  not much results so far.  there has to be a pile of junk somewhere.  As far as the goodies, they are small

[xairbusdriver]

First, there is no 'label' for 'files'. Second, there is no 'label' for OS stuff. Third, remember this is an Apple designed display that keeps a lot of stuff hidden fro 'normal' users.

I suggest that if there is a real desire to see how much of what is on a disk that an app like <DasiyDisk> be used. It's now available in Polish, BTW! Be sure to watch the video; a short vid is worth 978 words!

[Weatheraardvark]

In Polish.  Heck I have a problem with Iowa-ese.

Oh I looked and a lot of stuff is in libraries.(ooh  it is thundering out there, maybe we might get some rain.  only got 0.05 inches while just to the East 4.67 inches.  )  I did the usual cleaning with ccleaner. I used it with my PC.

I am not going to go into the oS or a library and start trashing.  I am using cloud storage more and more, and I have an Airport Time Capsule and an external drive. Also using Crashplan for off site storage. Probably over kill.  But trying to keep as much off the HD as possible.  But it keeps growing that mystery stuff.

IF that was related to the OS, I could get a handle on it.  But when I go to something like a program,  it still doesn't tell me what it is and can I do without it.  The mystery of apple.

One thing I did see in the video of Sierra, it is suppposed to address that.    So I wait.   

[Bull Winkus]

It is possible to get a head start on everyone else in getting macOS Sierra. You can join the Apple Beta Software Program.

I did this for several months when the program was first introduced. However, at the time I was using the older computer (2008 iMac 24") and soon found that running under a beta OS presents issues of uncertainty. When the train jumps the track, do you blame the rails or the engineer? Also, while Apple encouraged feedback, they didn't give any. So, no matter how many times you'd push that feedback button, you were in the dark as to whether it was even being read by anyone. So, with the next public release, I discharged the Apple Beta Software Program and abdicated my responsibilities to someone else.

When Sierra goes public, I will probably wait about a month and read the reviews for the "Oops announcements." Only if it's pretty quiet or the issues don't apply to me, will I then do the download.

My favorite new feature is the auto trashcan. Oh, and I'd like to give Siri a try at some OS operations. I may be able to par down my Dock contents and use Siri to launch less often used programs.

Weatheraardvark, I found this on the web about your issue. It dates back to Mountain Lion, but the issues may still be the same.

 

EDIT: My Other falls just under 100GB, & about 44GB on the WeatherCat Mac. FWIW

[xairbusdriver]

But when I go to something like a program,  it still doesn't tell me what it is and can I do without it.

Not sure I understand exactly what you want to do.

However, even in Finder, you can control click an app and select "Show Package Contents". You should now see folder/directory named "Contents". Open it and there can be lots of 'stuff'. Those files/folder probably won't show up in any Finder search (they certainly do in PathFinder). Nor do I know if they appear in apps like DaisyDisk. However, unless you wish to delete the ".lproj" files, I'd suggest keeping your hands of everything in any apps "Contents" directory. They'd all get deleted by simply trashing the app, anyway.

[Weatheraardvark]

I did add microsoft Excel, One Note, Outlook, then Sparkle and SpySecurity.
I have the files saved off the HD but i am guessing something remains behind.

I just have to be sure i have enough HD space to upgrade when that time appears.   

No, I am more comfortable deleting stuff on the PC that messing with the MAC.

[xairbusdriver]

I did add microsoft Excel, One Note, Outlook

Well, there's your problem!

What size internal drive do you have?

[Weatheraardvark]

1 TB

the app sizes are about 1 GB.

[Steve]

I'm still cursing the move to Yosemite . . . . when you guys insisted it was safe to get in da' water . . . .

No problems at all with any major or minor upgrades since buying this computer in 2011. You must be getting everyone else's share of problems.

Steve and I will update to Sierra rather early. Won't we Steve?

Yup!