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Article on the costs of daylight saving time.
« on: March 08, 2015, 09:52:22 PM »
Dear WeatherCat daylight savings time haters,  >:(

This morning I found the following article from the Washington Post on a elegant study done to test if daylight savings time actually does save energy:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/03/07/why-turning-your-clocks-forward-sunday-costs-you-money/

Researchers from the University of California - Santa Barbara took advantage of a change in laws that forced Indiana regions to switch to a uniform daylight savings time.  Before there were three groups: Eastern Standard plus daylight saving, Central Standard plus daylight saving, and Eastern Standard without daylight saving.  Anybody who knows anything about designing statistical studies this is just about the perfect arrangement of control and study groups.

In 2006, Indiana forced all regions to operate on the same daylight savings.  The researchers then checked to see how energy used changed.  To their great surprise, energy use - increased - by 1% on average.  That isn't much, but it will depend on the particular circumstances of weather, latitude and so on.  In some states the increase could be substantially greater.  What is certain is that daylight savings increases energy use - not decreasing it.

This really shouldn't come as a big surprise.  Daylight savings made sense in a time when people relied on daylight as their principle light source.  Today, the vast majority of people don't require sunlight.  Even agriculture no longer is bound to daylight.  Using artificial light, harvesting is done at night to prolong product freshness.  Since we use energy in order to provide the environment needed for work or play, sunlight doesn't play the role it once did in our activities.

As to why energy costs went up, the researchers point out: "In the spring, you are basically making people wake up in the early morning, the coldest time of day, when they might turn up their heat, and in the summer, if you take an hour of sunlight and you move it from the morning and put it in the evening, people are more likely to be running their air conditioner harder in the evening. That's because heat from the sun builds up over the course of the day, making that particular hour of sunlight hotter than it would have been if it occurred in the morning rather than the evening."

So, the evidence is now basically irrefutable.  Daylight savings should be scrapped.  It doesn't save energy and has well documented health and safety downfalls.  Alas force of habit is hard to overcome.  Perhaps the most mind-boggling advocates of daylight savings are environmentalists.  They clearly forget that until the invention of clocks, humans relied on the location of the sun in the sky as their indicator of time in the day.  Those same environmentalists now demand to mess up our interaction with the natural indicators of time in order to ultimately not save any energy.  Clearly environmentalists are not as in touch with nature as they believe.

Cheers, Edouard  [cheers1]

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Re: Article on the costs of daylight saving time.
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2015, 12:03:12 AM »
Hi Edouard
 all daylight savings time is for: Is for the rich that work 9 to 5 so they can sit on their a__ after work and enjoy more sun light and that is all it is good for.


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Re: Article on the costs of daylight saving time.
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2015, 05:27:24 AM »
Thanks for the post Edouard. DST should be done away with.
Blick


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Re: Article on the costs of daylight saving time.
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2015, 09:12:04 PM »
I'm with you guys! DST go away! We don't need you.

I always thought it was done to prevent school children from going to school in the dark. No, wait! That's for going off DST. That's the reason we don't just stay on DST.

I propose a new system. Each new day starts at dawn. That's right, 00:00 o'clock. Set your work schedules! They'll remain in sync with the sunrise year round.

Now, how do you make an atomic clock that tweaks the time each morning to account for that freaky hot orb's reluctance to conform to a 24 hour schedule? Suggestions?

 [spin]
Herb

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So much for society guided by reason (Re: Costs of daylight saving time.)
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2015, 08:54:28 PM »
Dear Blick, Herb, and WeatherCat social observers,

I'm with you guys! DST go away! We don't need you.

Sadly, that study alone should be sufficient to cause everyone to move swiftly to eliminate daylight saving time.  The only purpose was to save energy.  If it fails to do that, then the other negative consequences make it clearly something no society should tolerate.

Yet, even with that study in hand, I would expect it would be a long difficult struggle to have the laws changed.  We are not a society governed by reason, even if the principle reason for education is to insure that we are.  We most definitely live in curious times.


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Re: Article on the costs of daylight saving time.
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2015, 05:33:53 AM »
Wait! No takers on my proposed new system?

OK, I'll modify it a bit. Just trying to get time in sync with the real world, so everybody can start using the sun for an alarm clock.

[sleep]  [sun1] [sun3]  [sunnyspells] [sleep]  [sun1] [sun3]  [sunnyspells] [sleep]  [sun1] [sun3] [sunnyspells] [sleep]  [sun1] [sun3]  [sunnyspells]  [sleep]

Suppose we have the atomic clock in Greenwich re-sync to the sunrise time every day at 4 AM, with a pre-determined sunrise at 07:30 every day, year round. All of the old mechanical clocks would become obsolete, but be replaced by atomic clocks that sync to Greenwich every day. As daylight hours grow and recede, daylight savings is incrementally adjusted to.

We could have some fun with Parliament and Congress if we could simultaneously get a bill submitted on both sides of the pond.  [tup]

Wha'da'ya say?
 [cheers1]
Herb