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WeatherCat => WeatherCat iOS Clients => iOS Client Help => Topic started by: dfw_pilot on March 08, 2016, 08:24:22 pm

Title: Wind Differences
Post by: dfw_pilot on March 08, 2016, 08:24:22 pm
We got quite the thunderstorm squall line pass through this morning. I was curious why WXCat shows the peak wind of 54 mph (I believe it - lot$ of fence damage) versus the iOS app that shows a max wind of 18 (I don't believe it)? Thanks,

dfw
Title: Ideas
Post by: dfw_pilot on March 26, 2016, 02:42:15 pm
No ideas?
Title: Polling issue? (Re: Wind Differences)
Post by: elagache on March 26, 2016, 09:23:37 pm
Dear dfw and WeatherCat fans of iOS devices,

We got quite the thunderstorm squall line pass through this morning. I was curious why WXCat shows the peak wind of 54 mph (I believe it - lot$ of fence damage) versus the iOS app that shows a max wind of 18 (I don't believe it)? Thanks,

I certainly don't know for sure, but it might have something to do with how and what WeatherCat communicates to its clients.  If WeatherCat only provides current conditions and does so at a leisurely rate, it simply might not have sent the 54 mph gust, but only wind speeds before and after.

Stu would know for sure.

Cheers, Edouard
Title: Re: Wind Differences
Post by: WCDev on March 28, 2016, 01:42:57 pm
The data read by a client includes the current data, the windrose data and the daily highs and lows, so it should be there.

If you get a chance compare it to the desktop client.
Title: iOS vs Desktop Server
Post by: dfw_pilot on March 30, 2016, 05:17:55 am
Desktop Client matches the WC Program today: Max 19

However, the iOS app says the max today is: 11.0

Thanks.
Title: Re: Wind Differences
Post by: Blicj11 on March 30, 2016, 02:42:02 pm
I am seeing this too. Today the wind speed max on the iOS client is lower (by about half) than that of WC. WC and the desktop client match. Is the iOS Wind Speed Max, reporting the maximum wind gust or the maximum 10-minute average wind speed?
Title: Re: Wind Differences
Post by: wurzelmac on March 30, 2016, 05:02:59 pm
I am seeing this too. Today the wind speed max on the iOS client is lower (by about half) than that of WC. WC and the desktop client match. Is the iOS Wind Speed Max, reporting the maximum wind gust or the maximum 10-minute average wind speed?

Me, too.
I am afraid it is the max 10-min av speed. Maybe GrandPoohbah has only to change the tag for this value?
Title: Bump
Post by: dfw_pilot on April 06, 2016, 09:37:30 pm
Grand Pooh?
Title: Time for a PM? (Re: Bump)
Post by: elagache on April 06, 2016, 11:01:28 pm
Grand Pooh?

Perhaps there is something out of whack with Grand's subscription to this thread.  Try sending him a PM, that should work.

Cheers, Edoaurd
Title: Mod
Post by: dfw_pilot on April 06, 2016, 11:25:18 pm
He's the Mod . . .

But PM sent.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Wind Differences
Post by: The Grand Poohbah on April 06, 2016, 11:53:54 pm
I am seeing this too. Today the wind speed max on the iOS client is lower (by about half) than that of WC. WC and the desktop client match. Is the iOS Wind Speed Max, reporting the maximum wind gust or the maximum 10-minute average wind speed?

Me, too.
I am afraid it is the max 10-min av speed. Maybe GrandPoohbah has only to change the tag for this value?

I'm on it! I just don't know yet what I'm on....

The iOS client has:
            theMeasuredMax = [NSNumber numberWithFloat:self.theMinMax.max_windspeed];
and I gather that you want it to be:
            theMeasuredMax = [NSNumber numberWithFloat:self.theMinMax.max_windgust];

Is this like a mandate or something?

Title: Re: Wind Differences
Post by: Blicj11 on April 07, 2016, 12:02:17 am
Grand:

Ha ha. No mandate from me. Just an opinion. When I think about maximum wind, the maximum gust is more meaningful to me than the maximum speed (which refers to sustained wind). Where I live, big gusts bring down trees.

Hope you'll give it some thought.
Title: Fence
Post by: dfw_pilot on April 07, 2016, 02:27:06 am
Agreed.
Title: Re: Wind Differences
Post by: wurzelmac on April 09, 2016, 09:43:07 am
Hi Grand,

I agree with Blicj11 - me too I would rather see the max Windgust. In my opinion it is the fastest wind recorded on a certain day.

Thanks for thinking it over, and thanks for the App anyway!

Cheers,
Title: Re: Wind Differences
Post by: The Grand Poohbah on April 22, 2016, 07:32:42 pm
The Grand Poohbah can't just replace wind speed with wind gust. He has to add wind gust as a new indicator. "Why", he asks himself, "can't I just do the simple thing?" One small step for WeatherCat, one giant step for an update.

The current "Wind speed" is the WeatherCat "windspeed_instantaneous" and the visual bar scale has a fixed maximum value of 50 kph (31 mph). If the maximum scale value is exceeded, the bar fills completely but, if you tap it, the "Max" will report the actual value.

A "Wind gust" is the WeatherCat "windgust_15mins". What should be the fixed maximum value for this? Same as the wind speed (50 kph)?

I'm inclined to leave them both at 50 kph so that they have the same visual scale. In those cases when a wind gust does exceed 50 kph, you'd see it immediately and say "Holy moly, that musta been some wind gust!" and tap the scale to see the actual maximum.

Dare I ask for your thoughts on this?
Title: Re: Wind Differences
Post by: Blicj11 on April 23, 2016, 07:07:27 am
Grand:

Nothing worth doing is ever simple. Thank you so much for even being willing to think this one through. I like your proposal of keeping the scale the same.Where I live, I will not likely ever see the windspeed_instantaneous bar filled, but I would see the windgust_15mins bar filled. I am perfectly happy with the idea of those two bars having the same scale. I think you are somewhat of a genius for figuring out the iOS client apps in the first place.

Thanks for being open to this improvement to your fine app.

Blick

Title: Re: Wind Differences
Post by: wurzelmac on April 23, 2016, 10:44:52 am
Grand:

Nothing worth doing is ever simple. Thank you so much for even being willing to think this one through. I like your proposal of keeping the scale the same.Where I live, I will not likely ever see the windspeed_instantaneous bar filled, but I would see the windgust_15mins bar filled. I am perfectly happy with the idea of those two bars having the same scale. I think you are somewhat of a genius for figuring out the iOS client apps in the first place.

Thanks for being open to this improvement to your fine app.

Blick

Thanks Blick,

for bringing my german thoughts into english language!
 :)

Reinhard
Title: Re: Wind Differences
Post by: wurzelmac on April 29, 2016, 08:30:38 pm
Thanks to The Grand PoohBah for adding Windgust,
just downloaded V 1.4 (160426) for iPhone!

Cheers,
Reinhard
Title: Re: Wind Differences
Post by: Blicj11 on April 29, 2016, 08:37:52 pm
Thanks to The Grand PoohBah for adding Windgust,
just downloaded V 1.4 (160426) for iPhone!

Me too! Thanks Grand; this is a nice improvement and I appreciate you accommodating your users.
Title: Re: Wind Differences
Post by: The Grand Poohbah on April 29, 2016, 08:58:35 pm
You guys are quick! Apple approved it for sale at 8:20am. Glad you like it. The iPad and Apple TV updates are coming soon.