Will WeatherCat 3.1.0 work under the new Mac OS Big Sur which is expected to be released shortly?
For my Davis Vantage Vue weather station to run on my iMac I use the SiLabs USB Driver which I believe is a kernel extension (kext)
I receive notices periodically that it will not function under Big Sur.
Will WeatherCat 3.1.0 work under the new Mac OS Big Sur which is expected to be released shortly?
...several OS updates before making the upgrade. Early adopters inevitably find some shortcomings and bugs which are resolved in minor OS updates.Perhaps after that, I would be willing to update to Catalina! cmu:-)
In December once the semester is over, I am going to increase my modem speed, going for 940up speed. It involves Centurylink running a fiber optic to a modem. the after that is installed getting everything to switch over to the new setup. A headache but really not required. Of course then I could get my website back online. or not
I have been running BigSur from the first beta up to the current pre-release beta version 11.0.1. WeatherCat has been running just fine without any obvious problems through each iteration. No problem with USB data logger and SiLabsUSBDriver 5.3.5 (2/25/2020), either.
Granted, I’ve not tested every conceivable feature of WeatherCat; however, when I installed BigSur, WeaatherCat picked up right where Catalina left off with no intervention.
For those skeptical of new software, please note that the computer feeding my web site, WU, CWOP, and additional services is an old MacMini running High Sierra. ;D
David
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It appears that although I installed 5.3.5, it is not loaded. There appears to be no way to load it. The Install process describes going to System Preference > Privacy & Security > General and allowing the loading of the driver. But no such prompt displays there.
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Dear ColdnFrosty, X-Air, David, Weatheraardvark, and WeatherCat troubleshooters,. . . . .
It appears that although I installed 5.3.5, it is not loaded. There appears to be no way to load it. The Install process describes going to System Preference > Privacy & Security > General and allowing the loading of the driver. But no such prompt displays there.
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Lots of useful information here. Just in case you weren't aware of it, you must approve the installation of the driver in the Privacy & Security system preference within 1 hour of installing. If you didn't do this, then simply uninstall the Silicon Labs driver (a tool is provided with the driver installation package) and then install the driver a second time. Then go over to the Privacy & Security pane and you should see the driver waiting to be approved.
Cheers, Edouard [cheers1]
I am not using the USB driver. I have my console on the IP link and also in the other room I have their weatherlink.com thing. I would assume that for my situation, I should be fine, with the IP link or something with the weatherlink thing.
I haven't yet. Was planning to let it load overnight when I won't need it. If it won't work, then it needs to be fixed . I am sure a lot won't work with the new system. Have you tried it?
Do I just copy and paste the 4 scripts into a terminal window. Terminal commands make me a little nervous. Appreciate the help Thanks. Jeff
Last login: Sun Nov 8 06:48:16 on console
Odysseus:~ elagache$ sudo '/Volumes/Silicon Labs VCP Driver Install Disk/uninstaller.sh'I am running the Oregon Scientific WMR200 and WeatherCat runs perfectly with it under the latest update to the Catalina OS. I am running no special drivers. Now that the release of Big Sur OS is available, has anyone tried the OS upgrade that is running WeatherCat and what were the results?
By golly it installed properly following the Terminal instructions which are most appreciated. WeatherCat is now communicating with my Vantage Vue console.
As advised the Weather Station Gauges page is flashing rapidly making it unreadable. Hopefully this will settle down with time.
Thanks again for all the great suggestions
Jeff
Well, I found a solution to the Big Sur and SiLabs 5.3.5 driver issue from a couple of guys on the SiLabs community forum. It was really quite simple to implement their solution. Here are the steps.
Reboot into Recovery Mode (hold Command - R until the Apple logo displays).
Log in with your password.
Select Utilities>Terminal from the drop down menu.
In Terminal, enter the following command:
/usr/sbin/spctl kext-consent add 52444FG85C
Verify with the following commands:
/usr/sbin/spctl status SHOULD RETURN "Kernel Extension User Consent: ENABLED"
/usr/sbin/spctl kext-consent list SHOULD RETURN "Allowed Team Identifiers: 52444FG85C"
Now reboot into Big Sur and install SiLabs 5.3.5. Reconfigure Station Comms in WeatherCat and you should see the SiLabs 5.35 listed.
Well, I found a solution to the Big Sur and SiLabs 5.3.5 driver issue from a couple of guys on the SiLabs community forum. It was really quite simple to implement their solution. Here are the steps.
Reboot into Recovery Mode (hold Command - R until the Apple logo displays).
Log in with your password.
Select Utilities>Terminal from the drop down menu.
In Terminal, enter the following command:
/usr/sbin/spctl kext-consent add 52444FG85C
Verify with the following commands:
/usr/sbin/spctl status SHOULD RETURN "Kernel Extension User Consent: ENABLED"
/usr/sbin/spctl kext-consent list SHOULD RETURN "Allowed Team Identifiers: 52444FG85C"
Now reboot into Big Sur and install SiLabs 5.3.5. Reconfigure Station Comms in WeatherCat and you should see the SiLabs 5.35 listed.
First, thanks for posting this menu for installing the existing SiLabs driver. I tried installing the driver on a laptoop (one not running Weathercat), and everything worked as you have posted. I was reluctant to install on my production system until more experience has been posted. Now that you have been running for a few days, is everything still working correctly?
If so it shows that Apple is simply denying such drivers for bureaucratic reaons and not for functional reasons, so it shouldn't take SiLabs too long to update.
I do have one question, however. In your menu, you say to reconfigure station comms in Weathercat after installing the driver. Was there any loss (or change) of data in doing that? Also, if Weathercat is never started under Big Sur, do you know if that step necessary? In other words, is simply restarting Weathercat enough?
Thanks again for your post.
Just updated to Big Sur 11.01. WeatherCat not working with SiLabsUSBDriver 5.3.5 (updated 2/28/20). Rec'd legacy warning from Apple upon first reboot w/BigSur. Looks like we're in the wilderness for a while.....
Just updated to Big Sur 11.01. WeatherCat not working with SiLabsUSBDriver 5.3.5 (updated 2/28/20). Rec'd legacy warning from Apple upon first reboot w/BigSur. Looks like we're in the wilderness for a while.....
Not sure this has been experienced elsewhere, but I am unable to boot (or reboot) into recovery mode in Big Sur 11.0.1. Apparently this is a known Apple issue.....
ColdnFrosty I tried using these terminal commands but no luck. After the first command I enter the second command - /usr/sbin/spctl status - and get the following read out on my screen (see attache picture). Not sure what is up and why it doesn't work. On my weathercat machine I'm running Catalina but on a laptop I'm running Big Sur – I tried tried on my laptop. I'm no going to to upgrade to Big Sur until this gets resolved. Where exactly did you find this information from SiLabs. Can you provide a link to where this was discussed? Thx.
Hello folks,
The flickering basic gauges have been logged with Apple - still waiting on feedback.
For those with the flickering basic gauges can you please post your machine and the graphics adaptor type (you can get this info from 'About This Mac' in the Apple menu). Secondly, if you run the WeatherCat client on the same machine, do you see the same problem there?
Thanks,
Stu.
Thanks for an interesting and informative discussion.
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I then saw the thread about the Comm check, so I wiped the Comm in WeatherCat and re-booted. I entered the Davis Vantage Pro 2 as the source and viola – WeatherCat again reporting as it’s supposed to.
The last computer I really understood was three storeys high and had 8000 valvesWhy can't we still cal those switches/RAM "valves"?! Sounds much more familiar! [rockon]
You can now easily see why 8k valves are just not enough!! cmu:-)
I deleted my post It seems I'm having [banghead] the same problems with the USB drivers after upgrading my Mac OS Sierra To Mojave The file is in the right place but then I looked in the SYS report it shows the Bridge in USB so I know the port is working if look in the extensions nothing there But It is in the Extensions folder in the Library
Regrettably I do not have the impressive knowledge displayed by some contributors to this thread. As I do not understand what the Silabs fix for big sur does ,I have not attempted it yet. Does anyone know if Silabs intend to produce a patch for this or is the fix suggested the only way to get my davis vantage pro system up and running again.?
@Tony. I'm no code warrior either, but i believe the slabs business has to do with a USB driver, i.e. you have your Vantagepro console, attached to your computer via USB. I can say with certainty that if you use Ethernet instead of USB (which will require a dongle from Davis), that the lates version of Weathercat works with the latest version of the Mac OS, 11.0,1 (Big Sur). When I say it works, what I mean is that data successfully gets from weather station outside (wirelessly in my case) the Davis console, and from the Davis console to the to computer (via Ethernet). The only issue I am seeing is that the default gauge panel in Weathercat intermittently drops gauges, as well as that window has a strobing background. The data is there, just a wonky display which you can't look at for any length of time. This is all on a new mac Mini running Apple silicon.
So there are three issues with Big Sur 11.x and WeatherCatNot to put too fine a point on it, but the Silabs failure to install on Big Sur has nothing to do with WeatherCat. Any app that depends on the Silab driver would have the same problem. The solution is as simple as following the steps in a couple threads that you thoughtfully wrote (https://athena.trixology.com/index.php?topic=3206.msg30854#msg30854). ThU5:-)
So there are three issues with Big Sur 11.x and WeatherCat:
2) When you initially run the current version of WeatherCat on Big Sur 11.x, the Weather Station Gauges window appears. Anytime you click on the Tools->Gauges menu item, that window will flash rapidly.
How do you like the M1?
I am experiencing intermittent dropped communications between my Vantage Pro2 Console and my iMac.
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I noticed in system report-software-extensions that no silicon labs USB shows up. However, under system report-hardware-USB the silicon labs driver shows up. Another odd thing is that the silicon labs installer places in app in the applications folder. I have no idea what this is supposed to do. You can open it, but it doesn't do anything, nor does it affect what is showing up in system report.
For some reason, I don't have a silicon labs extension showing, but in WeatherCat, the choice is there when one configures comms. I suspect this is the root of my problem. Does anyone know what's going on with this weirdness?
In Big Sur, third-party kexts are kept in folders inside /Library/StagedExtensions, typically in Applications or Library/Extensions within that, whereas system kexts are in /System/Library/Extensions which is locked away on the System volume. You’ll also still see them listed in /Library/Extensions.
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Advice: Should I install Version 6 of the extension now (running Mojave) before I update?
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Is anyone running Big Sur, with Davis Vantage Pro 2, installed Ver 6 Silicon Labs bridge-----and all is working as expected?
Thank you..all very helpful!!!
I will continue to watch this thread (and others).....but probably won't attempt a move until at least 11.3.
You know, this shouldn't be this difficult a decision.... [banghead]
Since I am not running the latest OS, I think it IS broke.
I should be able to run that with a minimum of problems....Right?!?!
. . Still an issue. Bottom Line: Connection to my Davis Vantage Pro2 randomly drops. One day, it may stay up for 3 hours; one day it may stay connected for 24 hours or more. I guess this is unique to my set-up, since no one else has reported the same issue.
On posting the attachment I can see that it is there but not going into my post.I assume you are talking about the fact that you the "Preview" function does not actually show any attachments. That's just the way the forum software operates. Your posting is fine. ThU32:-)
QuoteOn posting the attachment I can see that it is there but not going into my post.I assume you are talking about the fact that you the "Preview" function does not actually show any attachments. That's just the way the forum software operates. Your posting is fine. ThU32:-)
How about a screen shot of the WC Prefs->Email form? The only thing you might want to do before uploading that image here is to hide/blur/block out your email address.
From your post, it "looks" like you have all the fields filled in, but a simple typo can be hard for the user to "see". Our own eyes sometimes only see what they expect to see and not what is actually there. It's called "expectation bias".
Of course, the one item that has the biggest effect on 'authentication' is your password and even you can't 'see' that! ;D Do you have your password saved in a password manager? If so, I'd suggest re-entering it in the Prefs. While you are at it, make sure you have the correct Port specified.