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General Category => General Computing/Macintosh => Topic started by: Blicj11 on February 06, 2015, 10:10:36 PM

Title: The end of iPhoto
Post by: Blicj11 on February 06, 2015, 10:10:36 PM
You are probably already aware that Apple is pulling the plug on iPhoto. If you take your cameras seriously you probably use some other software but if you are using iPhoto, it is being replaced this Spring with Photos, which will be similar to the iOS Photos app. Here is a short article about culling your iPhoto library in anticipation of the change.

http://www.macworld.com/article/2880481/how-to-prepare-your-iphoto-library-for-photos-for-os-x.html
Title: If it ain't broken . . . . . (Re: The end of iPhoto)
Post by: elagache on February 06, 2015, 11:15:17 PM
Dear Blick and WeatherCat shutterbugs,

Thanks for the heads-up on Photo.  I read the reviews and didn't like what I saw.  There is a reason I use my Mac to manage my photos and I see no reason why Apple should abandon more serious amateur photographers to humor the "point (barely) and shoot (just about anything) crowd".  I guess Apple is going where the money is and more serious folks need to spend the money to go with Adobe or some other product for folks really interested in taking good pictures.

I would be interested in what other WeatherCatters are using to manage their digital photos.  I try to avoid doing photo retouching, but I would be interested in a solution that was smart enough to keep versions so that you kept the original photo as taken by the camera and could create retouching that were independent.

Edouard
Title: Re: If it ain't broken . . . . . (Re: The end of iPhoto)
Post by: Blicj11 on February 06, 2015, 11:29:06 PM
I would be interested in what other WeatherCatters are using to manage their digital photos.

No joy there either. Aperture has long been an OS X favourite, but Apple is also killing it at the same time. Apple says the new Photos app will contain non-destructive photo editing and other tools that are in Aperture.

In response, Adobe says its similar product, Lightroom, is not going away. Adobe's response has been to promise to increase investment in Lightroom development. "We are committed to helping interested iPhoto and Aperture customers migrate to our rich solution across desktop, device and web workflows," Adobe said.
Title: Re: The end of iPhoto
Post by: Steve on February 07, 2015, 03:57:50 AM
I also use Aperture, and will continue to do so as long as it still functions on the latest OS.
Title: Re: The end of iPhoto
Post by: Bull Winkus on February 07, 2015, 05:45:22 AM
Me too. I use both Aperture and iPhoto and I don't relish the chore of going through the libraries and culling dead images. However, it needs to be done. It's getting out of hand.  [goofy]
Title: Re: The end of iPhoto
Post by: LesCimes on February 08, 2015, 10:47:22 PM
Of concern to me is that the new app is Internet based, i.e. they expect you to pay for iCloud storage  to hold all your photos. I imagine we all have more photos on our hard drive than the paltry free 5 gigs Apple provides for iCloud users.
Title: Re: The end of iPhoto
Post by: Bull Winkus on February 09, 2015, 06:36:18 AM
Oh. Internet based. Then, I'm out. Not enough bandwidth this century for me to start filing all my photos on some server. I guess that's all about sharing the same library across all devices. Not a concern for me. All I need is HD storage and I'm good.
Title: Re: The end of iPhoto
Post by: wurzelmac on February 09, 2015, 10:17:13 AM
Oh. Internet based. Then, I'm out. Not enough bandwidth this century for me to start filing all my photos on some server. I guess that's all about sharing the same library across all devices. Not a concern for me. All I need is HD storage and I'm good.

You have the same thoughts as I have. I want to have MY photos stored on MY harddisk, nowhere else.
 :'(

Cheers,
Reinhard
Title: Re: The end of iPhoto
Post by: Randall75 on February 09, 2015, 03:02:07 PM
Hi WC Gang
 I will just have to but another 3 TB HD to store mine on
I don't use iCloud either just another way of some one hacking in to your information
Why would you want to store your private info on someone else server free or not


cheers  [cheers1]


PS It may get to the place that I just won't up grade my computer to a new operating system and use what I have that works!
Title: Re: The end of iPhoto
Post by: wurzelmac on February 09, 2015, 03:32:25 PM
My hope is that I am able to store photos on my Mac, and iCloud storage is only an 'Option'.
https://www.apple.com/osx/photos-preview/

Cheers,
Reinhard
Title: MacWorld info on Photo. (Re: The end of iPhoto)
Post by: elagache on February 09, 2015, 09:24:37 PM
Dear LesCimes, Herb, Reinhard, Randall, and WeatherCat shutterbugs,

Of concern to me is that the new app is Internet based, i.e. they expect you to pay for iCloud storage  to hold all your photos. I imagine we all have more photos on our hard drive than the paltry free 5 gigs Apple provides for iCloud users.

I just double-checked and Photos does not require you to store your images in iCloud.  Read this review of Photos for more details:

http://www.macworld.com/article/2880099/first-look-photos-for-os-x.html (http://www.macworld.com/article/2880099/first-look-photos-for-os-x.html)

This article on questions about Photo is even more interesting at least to me:

http://www.macworld.com/article/2880207/your-photos-for-os-x-questions-answered.html (http://www.macworld.com/article/2880207/your-photos-for-os-x-questions-answered.html)

At the end they make two recommendations for alternatives to Aperture.  Anyone who wants a really competent program to manage their photos probably should be considering the alternatives.  As soon as I can scare up a little time - I'll be doing that.

Cheers, Edouard 
Title: Re: The end of iPhoto
Post by: LesCimes on February 10, 2015, 12:09:33 AM
I looked at the article lined above from Chris Breen (MacWorld). Very helpful, and yes iCloud storage of photos is optional.

Quote
When Photos was first announced a number of people fell into a panic. ?Apple can?t force me to keep my images in the cloud!? they cried. And they?re correct. Apple can?t force you to keep your images in the cloud, nor will it attempt to. Using iCloud storage is entirely optional. If you want to only store your images locally and not have them beamed into the cloud, you can. All you need do is ensure that the iCloud Photo Library option is unchecked in the iCloud preference within Photos. Or, if you want your images both in the cloud and on your Mac, enable the Download Original To This Mac option, also within Photos? iCloud preference.

That is good news. Thanks for the links Edouard!
Title: Re: The end of iPhoto
Post by: Bull Winkus on February 10, 2015, 06:27:48 AM
Read the preview description on Apple's site. I don't get it. Are they moving videos away from iTunes, or will both programs be keeping me confused by their duplicated efforts?  [goofy]
Title: Re: The end of iPhoto
Post by: Blicj11 on February 10, 2015, 08:20:01 AM
Thanks for the links Eduoard. Very helpful insight into Photos.

Herb: I haven't read anything about iTunes going away. So keep taking anti-confusion pills; we'll need 'em.
Title: Some alternatives to consider (Re: The end of iPhoto)
Post by: elagache on February 10, 2015, 11:27:26 PM
Dear LesCimes, Herb, Blick, and WeatherCat shutterbugs,

I put a few minutes into looking up alternatives to iPhoto and Aperture.  This wikipedia article on Adobe Lightroom is interesting:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Photoshop_Lightroom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Photoshop_Lightroom)

There is no doubt that Lightroom is a safe choice, but I really don't like the way Adobe does business.

The Mac World questions answered article mentions Capture One Pro:

http://www.phaseone.com/Imaging-Software/Capture-One.aspx (http://www.phaseone.com/Imaging-Software/Capture-One.aspx)

It is very expensive, but does seem really intended to give a professional photographer a good set of tools.

If you want to get something for less money ACD Systems sells a number of photo management packages from simple managers to products that also seem close to professional grade:

http://www.acdsee.com/ (http://www.acdsee.com/)

They do appear to have some sort of option to import photos from iPhoto but I had to search around and I wasn't able to confirm it at the 100% level.

Anyway, some food for thought.

Cheers, Edouard
Title: Re: The end of iPhoto
Post by: Bull Winkus on February 11, 2015, 01:23:23 AM
Not iTunes going away, too! Wonder what they're replacing it with.  [goofy]

J.K. You can't confuse me. It's too late for that.  [wink]

I meant that the video cataloging was going to be duplicitous in both iTunes and Photo. Don't need that.

Title: Re: The end of iPhoto
Post by: Blicj11 on February 11, 2015, 03:23:01 PM
Here is Chris Breen's latest in a series of helpful articles about the soon-to-arrive Photos app. In this one he answers readers' questions, including one about iCloud.

http://www.macworld.com/article/2882832/heavens-even-more-photos-questions.html
Title: Re: The end of iPhoto
Post by: Bull Winkus on February 11, 2015, 05:49:01 PM
Thanks Blick! good stuff.
Title: Another pricy alternative (Re: The end of iPhoto)
Post by: elagache on February 12, 2015, 12:20:08 AM
Dear Herb, Blick, and WeatherCat Shutterbugs,

I was thumbing through Outdoor Photorgrapher (on my iPad) when I came cross yet another alternative to iPhoto and Aperture:

http://mylio.com/ (http://mylio.com/)

They make Adobe seem cheap, but it does look like a very nice package.  I sure hope some Mac magazine will do a comparison review of all these alternatives.  It is a overwhelming just considering what I've found.

Cheers, Edouard
Title: Re: The end of iPhoto
Post by: Bull Winkus on February 12, 2015, 09:51:03 PM
Yeah, Edouard. That one wants to get paid again and again. Not my cup-o-tea.

I'll stick with what I got until what I want is recognized.