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WeatherCat => WeatherCat Web Templates => Topic started by: elagache on October 07, 2013, 10:58:26 PM

Title: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: elagache on October 07, 2013, 10:58:26 PM
Dear WeatherCat fans,

Recently, I got a compliment for my own weather station web pages - definitely a nice surprise!  [bounce]

That got me thinking and  . . . . . . .   Ya'know I never did get around to updating my old SeaMonkey web templates for WeatherCat.  So I took a look and as I suspected, the only thing that needed to be changed was the version number tag and of course update as needed for da' Cat's name.  The documentation took a little more work, but with a few new screenshots, broken links repaired, etc., it is now up to snuff.  So I can happily announce that my humble SeaMonkey web templates are now available for WeatherCat.

You can see it in action at this address:

http://www.canebas.org/Weather/SeaMonkey/ (http://www.canebas.org/Weather/SeaMonkey/)

If you like what you see, you can download it here:

http://www.canebas.org/WeatherCat/Web%20templates/WeatherCat%20SeaMonkey%20web%20template%20(0.5.2).zip (http://www.canebas.org/WeatherCat/Web%20templates/WeatherCat%20SeaMonkey%20web%20template%20(0.5.2).zip)

Even if you don't like what you see, you might find it worth your while to download it anyway at least if you are a newcomer to web pages.  The whole point of this website is that it can be edited with program like the SeaMonkey WYSIWYG HTML editor:

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/ (http://www.seamonkey-project.org/)

You can also use a number of other WYSIWYG HTML editors like Blue Griffon.

So it is a way for folks who hate coding to have a nice looking weather website.  It also has very explicit instructions on how to set up a custom website using WeatherCat so it can be helpful as a "training wheels" website to get you familiar with how custom websites are implemented using WeatherCat.

There is one more reason why you might want to download this package, it includes very easy to use instructions on how to display a Google map on your website.  So if you want a map like this on your website:

(http://maps.googleapis.com/maps/api/staticmap?center=37.851111,-122.1547%20&markers=color:blue|color:blue|label:S|37.851111,-122.1547&maptype=terrain&zoom=9&size=640x480&sensor=false)

Download this package and read up on how to get the Google maps API do generate something like this for your weather website.

Hope you'all enjoy it!

Cheers, Edouard  [cheers1]
Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: Steve on October 08, 2013, 02:36:51 AM
Edouard,

The page looks nice! Thanks for adding the template to the tools we can use.

I'd make one small change. WeatherCat uses a slightly different tag for statistics the LWC did. You used to only need ST1$ for the full set of statistics. Now you need:

STRECORDS$
STRECENT$
ST1$

Thanks for your continued contributions.
Steve
Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: Commodore on October 08, 2013, 07:35:34 PM
Hi Edouard,

Thank you very much for updating the template! When I get the time to order and set up my weather station, which should be in the next couple of weeks, I will use your template.

Regards,
Mark
Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: Blicj11 on October 09, 2013, 04:20:11 AM
Thanks for sharing Edouard. I have been looking for something to add stats to my page. This looks like a great place to start.
Title: Probably should document (Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates)
Post by: elagache on October 09, 2013, 07:14:40 PM
Hi Steve, Mark, Blick, and WeatherCat fans,

Thanks guys.  Sorry it has taken me so long to do this.

I'd make one small change. WeatherCat uses a slightly different tag for statistics the LWC did. You used to only need ST1$ for the full set of statistics. Now you need:

STRECORDS$
STRECENT$
ST1$

Hmm, I recalled that something was out of whack, but I looked this over and thought that actually the annual data was a reasonable compromise to avoid overwhelming the viewer with data.  I think what I should do is add the other tags and document that they are there, but I'm not sure I should have them actually active, but instead comment them out.  What do folks prefer - is more statistics always better?

Cheers, Edouard  [cheers1]
Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: Blicj11 on October 09, 2013, 07:28:05 PM
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What do folks prefer - is more statistics always better?

Not necessarily, but I think it is ideal to add the tags and document how to activate the ones you want to use. This let's everyone have their cake and eat it too.

I just finished reading Steve Jobs biography last night. I am reminded of a statement he made:

Some people say, “Give the customers what they want.” But that’s not my approach. Our job is to figure out what they’re going to want before they do. I think Henry Ford once said, “If I’d asked customers what they wanted, they would have told me, ‘A faster horse!’” People don’t know what they want until you show it to them. That’s why I never rely on market research.

Isaacson, Walter (2011-10-24). Steve Jobs (p. 567). Simon & Schuster, Inc.. Kindle Edition.
Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: Steve on October 09, 2013, 10:26:52 PM
The old ST1$ on LWC had records, recent, and annual, so there was no option. I guess each person may want something a little different. On mine (linked HERE (http://www.avon-weather.com/statistics.html)) I look at records and recent, and rarely refer to annual unless we've had a particularly high/low hot/cold record and I want to compare it to previous years.

Steve
Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: Blicj11 on October 09, 2013, 10:40:47 PM
Steve:

I was just pounding over your site one more time. Great job, with lots of cool details. I did find one typo or perhaps just a missing link.

In your About the weather station section, you state the following:

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The local weather information on this web page is generated by Trixology WeatherCat [link] software.

It appears you should either provide the link to WeatherCat or delete the word "[link]".
Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: Steve on October 10, 2013, 03:08:53 AM
It appears you should either provide the link to WeatherCat or delete the word "[link]".

Thanks for the nice comment on my site. I still have a coupls of ideas to do, but for teh most part I'm pleased with the current state.

Regarding the Trixology link; It is a live link. But the style sheet I'm using doesn't use the typical blue underline for links. It only shows a live link when passing a mouse over it (or clicking on a mobile device.) That's why I added the word link to let folks know it went somewhere.

Thanks,
Steve
Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: Blicj11 on October 10, 2013, 03:43:15 PM
Steve:

Thanks for the explanation. I should have figured that out on my own. May I ask if you are using a template for your site or did you code it from scratch?
Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: Steve on October 10, 2013, 05:11:44 PM
May I ask if you are using a template for your site or did you code it from scratch?

Both. I started with the AtkinsFamily template (http://athena.trixology.com/index.php?topic=213.0), heavily modified it, added bits of Edouard's template, the SteelSeries Gauges, and a bunch of my own additions. It has changed substantially over the past two years since it was just the basic Atkins template.
Title: Working on something. (Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates)
Post by: elagache on October 10, 2013, 09:44:39 PM
Dear Steve, Blick, and WeatherCat web tinkerers,

Okay, I got some ideas on how to make a longer statistics page easier to navigate.  So give me a little time to fuss with this and I'll update the template.

The old ST1$ on LWC had records, recent, and annual, so there was no option.

So this tag is deprecated in WeatherCat - correct?  When I started to update the template I went to see my live site and was surprised to see I hadn't changed this tag yet, so I didn't bother to change it in the template.  However, this is a mistake I now believe.

I guess each person may want something a little different. On mine (linked HERE (http://www.avon-weather.com/statistics.html)) I look at records and recent, and rarely refer to annual unless we've had a particularly high/low hot/cold record and I want to compare it to previous years.

Hmm, definitely different strokes for different folks.  I rarely look at anything but the year to year  . . . . .  rainfall data! *Sniff* definitely a victim of "DISS" (Drought Induced Stress Syndrome.)  [sweat2]

However, I'm surprised Steve that you would be looking at your weather records very often - why is that?  At least for me, I have a reasonable idea of what my station's records are etched in memory (sometimes in infamy no less!)  [thunder]  Is this a case of the very wild weather you'all have in the eastern parts of the USofA making those records never standing for every long?

I find the weather records so uninteresting that I was comtemplating moving them to the Station/Region page of the template.  How to folks feel about that?  Are the records much more useful for most WeatherCat weather watchers?

Curious minds want to know!

Cheers, Edouard  [cheers1] 
Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: Steve on October 11, 2013, 03:24:39 AM
I guess I check the records because I have a lousy memory. I never can remember how much rain we had on the wettest day, and when I get a 1.6" day I have to go look to see if it is a record. We just set a station record high temperature one month ago today. And I can never remember if the highest wind speed was 42 or 45 MPH.

I look at the recent data probably more than the records. I don't know why I don't seem to use the year over year data other than I only have two years worth.
Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: Commodore on October 11, 2013, 05:12:11 AM
Greetings,

Historical data is nice to have but I rarely look at it so my personal preference is to have a single link to a separate page for historical data. One of the many things I really like about your weather site, Edouard, is how easy it is to find the information I want to see. It has a simple and elegant interface. This is in stark contrast to many weather sites. For example, I love the data on Weather Underground but it's overwhelming when I look at it because of all of the different data on a single page. My first reaction when it loads is to just move on because it's so busy looking. I think the old adage had it right: Less is more.   ;D

Regards,
Mark
Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: Blicj11 on October 11, 2013, 05:27:57 PM
Edouard:

You asked for opinions and if there is one thing in this world upon which I am a known expert, it is my own opinion. No one in the entire world knows more about my opinion than me.  :)

I agree with Mark about less is more. However, I draw a different conclusion than his. I like to see historical records (perhaps because I am getting old and can't remember stuff). However, if you add them as a separate tab, you have too many tabs. I don't think historical records is a good fit under Region. Therefore, I like what Steve did with it. It fits under Statistics, either at the beginning like Steve did it, or at the end.
Title: How about this? (Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates)
Post by: elagache on October 11, 2013, 09:22:39 PM
Dear Steve, Mark, Blick, and WeatherCat web user-interface "experts" . . . . .  ;D

Okay, I came up with one way to skin this cat(fish) . . . .   [biggrin]

It doesn't seem to me to be overwhelming to have both the recent data and the year to year data on one page if you provide some navigation to skip from one to the other.  So here is my statistics page on my Canebas site arranged in this way:

http://www.canebas.org/Weather/Canebas_statistics.html (http://www.canebas.org/Weather/Canebas_statistics.html)

This sort of navigation is simple enough that it gets the job done and isn't too disruptive or overloads the main user interface.

As I suggested, I just don't feel like the records really belong on this page anyway.  So I put it at the bottom of the station page.  Like the statistics page I have put a quick link to skip down to the records.

http://www.canebas.org/Weather/Canebas_station.html (http://www.canebas.org/Weather/Canebas_station.html)

Since the records aren't a huge amount of information, it doesn't look unreasonable on the station page and after all, the records seen on at the station do sort of belong on the station page in a way - even if it isn't entirely expected.  It just occurred to me that I could also add a link from the statistics page to the records data so that folks looking specifically for this would have a quick path to it.

What do you think about something like this?  It isn't perfect, but none of this stuff ever is, so somewhere you've gotta compromise!

Cheers, Edouard
Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: Blicj11 on October 12, 2013, 07:18:34 AM
I think it's a nice compromise that provides all the data without overcomplicating the page.
Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: Steve on October 12, 2013, 02:04:48 PM
We'll probably have as many opinions as replies, so anything will be a compromise. It is your template, so whichever you think is best is probably what you should post.

As for my opinion, I consider a record to be a statistic. I don't think anyone would think to go to my "About" page (the equivalent of your "Station" page) to see what the hottest day was. Apparently Stu considered records to be statistics, as he had them as part of LWC's ST1$ statistics tag, and now has them as STrecords$

Steve
Title: Choose your poison! (Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates)
Post by: elagache on October 12, 2013, 09:37:15 PM
Howdy Steve, Blick, and WeatherCat fans,

We'll probably have as many opinions as replies, so anything will be a compromise. It is your template, so whichever you think is best is probably what you should post.

Well, actually I don't think about it that way.  My personal website is one thing, but the template should be as much a consensus as possible.  It's purpose is to allow someone new to WeatherCat to get their feet wet with templates, so it should be as "plain vanilla" as possible so that it has the maximum general appeal.

As for my opinion, I consider a record to be a statistic. I don't think anyone would think to go to my "About" page (the equivalent of your "Station" page) to see what the hottest day was. Apparently Stu considered records to be statistics, as he had them as part of LWC's ST1$ statistics tag, and now has them as STrecords$

Well, unfortunately your points aren't exactly on the mark.  Of course a record is a statistic - what else could it be?  However, it is a kind of statistic that also has a special interest to a visitor who is curious about what the weather is like at your location.  An idea of the extremes is a very good way to size up the kind of climate at physical location.  So I think argument can be made for having the statistics on weather extremes in both parts of a weather website - but that is of course a bit gabby.

So there are potentially 3 different ways of resolving this:


Now I'm not sure what I want on my personal page.  As far as a conservative and plain-vanilla template for everyone else to use, what does the community suggest?

A curious mind wants to know!

Cheers, Edouard  [cheers1]
Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: Steve on October 13, 2013, 02:46:02 AM
Option ! like you were originally planning.

Steve
Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: WCDev on October 13, 2013, 08:35:37 AM
WeatherCat offers finer control over the output - the old tags are present for compatibility with older pages, but shouldn't be used any more. A complete list of the current ones can be found at: http://live.trixology.com/custom/

Cheers,
Stu.
Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: Blicj11 on October 13, 2013, 03:52:45 PM
I like Option 1 as well. I also like the fabulous breadth of data options Stu has provided in WeatherCat!
Title: Option #1 it is! (Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates)
Post by: elagache on October 13, 2013, 10:17:11 PM
Dear Steve, Stu, Blick, and WeatherCat fans,

 ;) . . . Alright, alight, alright already!! . . .  >:(

Actually option #1 was very much what I expected.  Now it is up to me to come up with a simple but sufficient way to navigate between the three types of statistics.

WeatherCat offers finer control over the output - the old tags are present for compatibility with older pages, but shouldn't be used any more. A complete list of the current ones can be found at: http://live.trixology.com/custom/

Unfortunately, this is a case where haste definitely made waste.  I was almost certain that the statistics tags had changed.  However, in the race to switch from LWC to WeatherCat last year, I only fixed what was completely broken.  When I started to revise the template last week, i was confused by the fact that the tag hadn't broken outright.  I hadn't kept the old documentation from the LWC/WeatherCat transition, so I couldn't figure out what was happening to me.  Therefore I took the obvious way out - I was lazy!!  [sleep]

Oh well, stay tuned for the fix!

Cheers, Edouard  [cheers1]
Title: New statistics page. (Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates)
Post by: elagache on October 14, 2013, 07:37:10 PM
Dear WeatherCat web templates user-feedback committee,

Okay, I've come up with a simple but I believe satisfactory version of the statistics page.  You can look at it here:

http://www.canebas.org/Weather/SeaMonkey/statistics.html (http://www.canebas.org/Weather/SeaMonkey/statistics.html)

There appears to be a problem with the width of the page exceeding the size of my top graphic, alas that's a WeatherCat bug that I'll report shortly.

The hyperlinks are not particularly spiffy, but they get the job done and are unobstrusive.

So what you all think?  Does this pass the bar?

Cheers, Edouard  [cheers1]

P.S. There is now some redundancy between the recent weather on this page and the index page.  I looked it over and thought it was still okay.  Any objections?

Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: Blicj11 on October 14, 2013, 07:46:30 PM
Edouard:

I like it. I don't mind the redundancy. The way I look at it, there are some quick facts on the home page and if you want more stats go to the stats page.
Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: Steve on October 15, 2013, 12:33:08 AM
 [tup]
Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: Commodore on October 15, 2013, 04:00:07 AM
I like it!
Title: Will update docs and "ship it." (Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates)
Post by: elagache on October 15, 2013, 07:55:17 PM
Dear Blick, Steve, Mark and WeatherCat webmisters

Okay, sounds good.  I need to update the documentation and I might make one more tweak if I can find a little time.  Unfortunately, the nightmare disguised as a hobby is beckoning . . . . . . . . (http://www.canebas.org/Automotive/V8_Buick/Misc/Biquette_V8_Buick_signature.gif)

It may take me a few days to get this new version out the door.

Cheers, Edouard  [cheers1]
Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: Blicj11 on October 15, 2013, 08:37:19 PM
No worries.

Quote
Unfortunately, the nightmare disguised as a hobby is beckoning . . . . . . . .

Did you get confirmation that the breather is causing the leaks?
Title: Leaks and no clear mechanism. (Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey)
Post by: elagache on October 15, 2013, 09:23:55 PM
Dear Blick and WeatherCat automotive enthusiasts,

Apologies for quick digression.

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Unfortunately, the nightmare disguised as a hobby is beckoning . . . . . . . .

Did you get confirmation that the breather is causing the leaks?

It seems clear that the PCV system cannot be responsible for the leaks.  It is working properly.  Right now there are 5 leak areas: both head gaskets, the oil pan, the block-off plate for where the mechanical fuel pump would have been (the car has an electric fuel pump for the EFI system,) and a leak in the main rear crankshaft bearing.  The engine builder hasn't been able to come up with a hypothesis and proposes: try driving the car a few hundred miles to see if the leaks stop as the engine breaks itself in.

I'm about to discuss the situation with Orinda Motors and see what to do.  *Sigh*, not feeling very good about this.  :(

Edouard
Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: Randall75 on October 15, 2013, 09:59:02 PM
Hi Edouard
 Sorry to hear about all the leaks and the only one the might stop leaking is the rear motor seal after driving for a while after it gets seated but the rest sounds like gasket problems to me good luck
cheers
 [cheers1]
Title: Thanks Randall (Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates)
Post by: elagache on October 15, 2013, 11:04:12 PM
Hi Randall and WeatherCat automotive enthusiasts,

Hi Edouard
 Sorry to hear about all the leaks and the only one the might stop leaking is the rear motor seal after driving for a while after it gets seated but the rest sounds like gasket problems to me good luck
cheers
 [cheers1]

Thanks Randall for the sympathy.

I'm trying to follow the engine builder's instructions for diagnosing the situation as much to the letter as possible.  Definitely feeling a little pessimistic at this point.

Oh well, (http://www.canebas.org/Weather/LWC_forum/Custom_emoticons/shrug_shoulders_confused.gif)

Edouard
Title: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates (0.5.2) now available.
Post by: elagache on October 18, 2013, 08:11:58 PM
Dear WeatherCat Webmisters,

I've gone ahead and packaged up the revised version of the WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates.  You can download it here:

http://www.canebas.org/WeatherCat/Web%20templates/WeatherCat%20SeaMonkey%20web%20template%20(0.5.2).zip (http://www.canebas.org/WeatherCat/Web%20templates/WeatherCat%20SeaMonkey%20web%20template%20(0.5.2).zip)

The main change is the upgrade to the Statistics page, there is some documentation corrections as well.

Enjoy!  [bounce]

Cheers, Edouard  [cheers1]
Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: Blicj11 on October 18, 2013, 08:13:57 PM
Thanks Edouard! I will take a look.
Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: Commodore on October 20, 2013, 04:51:37 AM
Thank you!
Title: You're welcome folks! (Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates)
Post by: elagache on October 20, 2013, 11:02:37 PM
Dear Blick, Mark, and WeatherCat fans,

Glad you guys have found it useful.  There is something for just about everyone if you look hard enough!

Cheers, Edouard  [cheers1]
Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: ddrankin on November 17, 2013, 07:03:14 PM
Thanks for the work on this template Edouard!

I found it very useful.  Also, thanks for pointing me towards SeaMonkey as a web editor.  I'm fairly good with hardware, but not so much on HTML.  The SeaMonkey web editor really helped make the changes to the template to personalize it.
Title: You are welcome! (Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates)
Post by: elagache on November 17, 2013, 11:03:36 PM
Dear ddrankin and WeatherCat fans,

Thanks for the work on this template Edouard!

You are most welcome!   Life is complex enough as it is, there is a need of easy to manipulate template that still could be personalized enough to bring out "the real you!"

Cheers, Edouard  [cheers1]
Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: Brandon weather on November 28, 2015, 09:07:08 PM
Hi Edouard,
Thanks for the template, really enjoyed the challenge of html!. I have got it up and running and you can see it at weather.brandonsuffolk.com . Whilst it's cold and miserable during the winter I'm going to experiment and explore what I can do to personalise the site. Would recommend any newbies to give it a try

Once again many thanks !
Title: Glad it worked out for you! (Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates)
Post by: elagache on November 28, 2015, 10:36:34 PM
Dear Brandon and WeatherCat web spinners,

Thanks for the template, really enjoyed the challenge of html!. I have got it up and running and you can see it at weather.brandonsuffolk.com . Whilst it's cold and miserable during the winter I'm going to experiment and explore what I can do to personalise the site. Would recommend any newbies to give it a try

You are most welcome!  [tup]  Glad that you found it useful.  Indeed, my intentions was to make a simple website that could easily gotten up and running and could be modified without much fussing with HTML, but could be a stepping stone to more complex websites.

Who knows, maybe someday I'll get around to making a more complex website for myself!

Cheers, Edouard
Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: Blicj11 on November 28, 2015, 11:28:02 PM
I have got it up and running and you can see it at weather.brandonsuffolk.com .

Brandon, I just had a look at your weather website. Looks good. I like the clean, simple look of Edouard's SeaMonkey template. I'm waiting for him to build a tab that supports SteelSeries Gauges and another that includes the digital image of the Davis console. Then I'm going to use it myself. Now that his Buick is running, he can spend the winter doing stuff for the rest of us.  :)

In the meantime, your site is nice.
Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: Brandon weather on November 29, 2015, 09:35:55 AM
Thank you, and thanks for looking !
Title: Another reason for the drought to end. (Re: SeaMonkey web templates)
Post by: elagache on November 29, 2015, 09:31:42 PM
Dear Brandon, Blick, and WeatherCat web spinners,

I like the clean, simple look of Edouard's SeaMonkey template. I'm waiting for him to build a tab that supports SteelSeries Gauges and another that includes the digital image of the Davis console.

Well, if that's what you are waiting for . . . you are going to be in for a long wait!  I am interested in adding real-time updates to this template, but I want do have most of the information remain in a digital format as the website has it now.  I really am a "digital kind of guy" and turned off Stu's custom gauges because of the memory leak in Yosemite and really don't miss them.  So in my current thinking, the temperature, barometric pressure, and rainfall would remain as is, but those numbers would be updated via PHP instead of being static.  Underneath that table, I really would like to have gauges for wind direction and wind run, but I don't think you can get wind run in real-time updating version for the web - isn't that true?  So I think I would go with some sort of wind direction gauge and once more a simple number for the wind-speed being displayed in real-time via PHP.

Also, I really don't care for the Davis console renditions on a webpage, so you are on your own on that one as well!

However, if you really want it, it isn't at all hard to add tabs.  My enhanced version of the SeaMonkey template that I run for my weather website has 6 tabs.  If you want, I can send you a page as a sample and you can simply go through it and rename the tabs to do what you want.  Since you already know how to get the steel gauges to run on your existing website, all you would need is to splice that code into the pages as you desire.

Then I'm going to use it myself. Now that his Buick is running, he can spend the winter doing stuff for the rest of us.  :)

Well, not quite.  If we had a long spell of rain, then I would have little else to do but work on the computer and that sure would help everything from the AppleScripts to this template.  Alas, so far, El Niño sure seems to be a no-show and I'm starting to get worried . . . . (http://www.canebas.org/WeatherCat/Forum_support_documents/Custom_emoticons/desert-smiley.gif)  As long as the weather is dry, there is always yard work to do . . . .  (http://www.canebas.org/WeatherCat/Forum_support_documents/Custom_emoticons/gardening_smiley.gif)

Oh well, . . . Edouard
Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: bcurry on December 02, 2015, 03:07:50 AM
Thanks for the template - I played with it a bit in Dreamweaver and made it work well for my station. I like the simplicity of the pages and the ease of customization once I figured out what WC was doing (although I'm still not quite sure HOW it's doing it...LOL)

My website with this template is on:

http://www.billcurry.ca/weather/ (http://www.billcurry.ca/weather/)

Great program and fun to play with the html and scripts.

Bill
Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: Blicj11 on December 02, 2015, 08:07:15 AM
Bill:

I just took a look at your weather site, as well as your photography site (which is very impressive). Welcome to the WeatherCat forum and thanks for sharing the links to your sites.
Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: bcurry on December 02, 2015, 11:53:09 AM
Thanks - and thanks for having a look around both the weather site and my photography website!

Bill
Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: Steve on December 03, 2015, 03:40:25 PM
Off-topic photography discussion moved to new topic in General Discussion forum.
http://athena.trixology.com/index.php?topic=1933.0
Title: Nice job Bill! (Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates)
Post by: elagache on December 03, 2015, 10:27:42 PM
Dear Bill, Blick, and WeatherCat web spinners, . . .

Thanks for the template - I played with it a bit in Dreamweaver and made it work well for my station. I like the simplicity of the pages and the ease of customization once I figured out what WC was doing (although I'm still not quite sure HOW it's doing it...LOL)

My website with this template is on:

http://www.billcurry.ca/weather/ (http://www.billcurry.ca/weather/)

Great program and fun to play with the html and scripts.

Glad you found these templates useful and were able to improve upon them!  I like your improvements - great job!  [tup]

Cheers, Edouard  [cheers1]
Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: bcurry on December 24, 2015, 02:25:23 AM
Hi all,
I am having good luck with the template so far.
I do note that some other templates have a moon phase and rise/set dataset.
Is there any way to put this in text form into this template?
Thanks,
Bill

www.billcurry.ca/weather
Title: Sun data easy - Moon data? (Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates)
Post by: elagache on December 24, 2015, 11:37:48 PM
Dear Bill and WeatherCat web spinners,

I do note that some other templates have a moon phase and rise/set dataset.
Is there any way to put this in text form into this template?

WeatherCat provides web tags for sunrise and sunset.  In fact there are 6 of them.  Here is an example of sunrise for today:

Code: [Select]
Sunrise today: SUNRISELOCAL$
An easy way to find information on these tags is to bring up the WeatherCat manual from the WeatherCat help menu and search for the word sunrise.  That will bring up the reference.

One place you could put this information is somewhere on the current conditions page.  I never did this because to me astronomy information is different from weather.  That's what happens when you become an amateur astronomer before getting a personal weather station.

I don't know of a way to get the phase of the moon off the top of my head, but I believe some web services do things like that.  Can anybody chime in with some way to do that?

Merry Christmas Bill and all you WeatherCatters out there!  :)

Cheers, Edouard
Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: bcurry on December 25, 2015, 01:20:15 AM
Thanks Edouard,
Yes - I went searching and actually found one thing that looks OK.
I had the tags with Weathercat for the sunrise/sunset and length of day (they work great!), and wanted a similar text thing for the moon and its properties.
I instead have a form that is created from a server based on input that is then thrown for you - you simply modify the inputs on the server's webpage the first time, it throws the code and then you paste the code onto your webpage.
I've done this and it looks OK - I'd just like much plainer, but it works for now.

Cheers,
and here's hoping all have a great Holiday!
Bill

see the web page here:
www.billcurry.ca/weather

Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: TechnoMonkey on December 25, 2015, 10:58:03 PM
For those interested, here is a spreadsheet with the moon phases and percent illumination from now until December 2020.  The times are CST.

I have put it in my database and am in the process of writing a php script to attach to my Weather page.

Here is a sample.  The percentage is at midnight.  Added Rise/Set.

I just realized that changing latitudes affects the rise/set time significantly, so i have included my worksheet.

I got the data from here. --> http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/RS_OneYear.php

      Date            Time   Phase                  %      Rise      Set
1   2015/12/25   05:11   Full Moon             0.99   18:18   07:12
2   2015/12/26               Waning Gibbous   0.99   19:15   08:06
3   2015/12/27               Waning Gibbous   0.96   20:12   08:54
4   2015/12/28               Waning Gibbous   0.91   21:08   09:38
5   2015/12/29               Waning Gibbous   0.85   22:02   10:18
6   2015/12/30               Waning Gibbous   0.77   22:54   10:55
7   2015/12/31               Waning Gibbous   0.68   23:46   11:30

                      o    ,      o   ,                   ARANSAS PASS, TEXAS                          Astronomical Applications Dept.
Location: W097 10, N27 54                    Rise and Set for the Moon for 2015          U. S. Naval Observatory       
                                                            Central Standard Time                           Washington, DC  20392-5420     
Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: Blicj11 on December 25, 2015, 11:24:13 PM
Bill:

I use the same service for moon information (der-mond.org), but TechnoMonkey's approach may provide a simpler display on your website if you want less lunar information.
Title: Thanks guys! (Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates)
Post by: elagache on December 25, 2015, 11:53:17 PM
Dear Bill, TechnoMonkey, Blick, and WeatherCat web spinners,

Thanks for chiming in with some good suggestions!

Merry Christmas!

Edouard
Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: TechnoMonkey on December 27, 2015, 02:50:41 AM
And if someone is really motivated, here is a sql file with 180 moon gifs in 2 degree increments.
Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: TechnoMonkey on December 28, 2015, 03:40:20 AM
The aesthetics need some work, but my lunar display is up and running.

www.technomonkeys.com
Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: Blicj11 on December 28, 2015, 03:28:16 PM
Nice coding.
Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: TechnoMonkey on December 28, 2015, 04:14:34 PM
Thank you!
Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: TechnoMonkey on December 31, 2015, 03:40:17 PM
I found a php script that calculates the Moon data locally without having to access external servers or data.  A WHOLE LOT easier than what I had just built for my site.  It was easy to understand (if you are a little familiar with PHP).  It took me just a couple hours to customize and integrate it into my weather page.  I also found a good NASA gif (http://bestanimations.com/Earth&Space/Moon/moon-day-night-rotation-space-nasa-animated-gif-1.gif (http://bestanimations.com/Earth&Space/Moon/moon-day-night-rotation-space-nasa-animated-gif-1.gif)) with 99 nice frames from which I extracted the lunar phases.  That made it easy for the display as the phases are .00 to .99.

http://www.technomonkeys.com (http://www.technomonkeys.com)

As it turns out, I may have found the link on this site from saratoga-weather.

http://saratoga-weather.org/WDtest/moon-phase.php (http://saratoga-weather.org/WDtest/moon-phase.php)

It would seem that this link is for display only as the data is not correct.  Probably a starting date error/typo.

Correct data is here. (I rounded the phase for my gif display.) http://www.technomonkeys.com/Weather/test/moon-phase.php (http://www.technomonkeys.com/Weather/test/moon-phase.php)
Title: Thanks for lunar work! (Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.)
Post by: elagache on December 31, 2015, 11:31:53 PM
Dear TechnoMonkey and WeatherCat web spinners,

Thanks for your work on this!  Sorry, I'm still not able to get back to computer projects.  This week the weather is dry and worse still, my sister's car needed some work done on it . . . . . there is always something!! . . . (http://www.canebas.org/WeatherCat/Forum_support_documents/Custom_emoticons/D'oh.gif)

Cheers, Edouard
Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: bcurry on January 23, 2016, 11:40:13 AM
Hi all,
I am quite happy with what I've got going using this template, but I do like the look of the other gauges I see on some folks websites.
How does one do like this:
http://www.overlookweather.com/WeatherCat/index.html

Do you have to load a whole set of gauge images?
Mine currently looks like this:
http://www.billcurry.ca/weather
and I'd like to play with other gauge looks...

Thanks,
Bill


Title: Steel gauges (Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates)
Post by: elagache on January 23, 2016, 05:11:35 PM
Dear Bill and WeatherCat web spinners, . . .

I am quite happy with what I've got going using this template, but I do like the look of the other gauges I see on some folks websites.
How does one do like this:
http://www.overlookweather.com/WeatherCat/index.html

Those are what are called Steel Gauges:

http://athena.trixology.com/index.php?topic=576.0 (http://athena.trixology.com/index.php?topic=576.0)

If I understand correctly, they are implemented with a mixture of PHP, Ajax, and JSON.  This is a modern web technology and it can be incorporated into any web page include the SeaMonkey templates.  Others have gotten the Steel Gauges to work on various web templates, you might start a thread so ask how they did it.

Sorry, I would like to help you with this but . . . . there aren't enough hours in the day to get done what I need to do!  [banghead]

Cheers, Edouard
Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: bcurry on January 23, 2016, 06:21:58 PM
Thanks-
That's what I was afraid of - I'll have a look at the Steel Gauges thread and see if it would be worth it to me!

Cheers,
Bill

Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: Randall75 on January 23, 2016, 09:55:23 PM
Hi Bill and Edouard
 Those gauges on overlookweather are WeatherCats Custon Gauges not the Steel Guages.
Try this:
Open his site in Safari
Then go to file and save it as an source page to your desktop
then open SeaMonkey and open the saved Source file in it
this should give you and ideal of how its done in SeaMonkeys composer page
you will need the web tags for the custom gauges that you have to create to get


cheers


 [cheers1]

Title: My bad (Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates)
Post by: elagache on January 23, 2016, 11:09:52 PM
Dear Randall, Bill, and WeatherCat web spinner,

Those gauges on overlookweather are WeatherCats Custon Gauges not the Steel Guages.

Oops, my bad!  :-[

I had to make an unusual early morning visit to the forum to answer a PM and tried to blaze through the postings rather than lose track of them.  So I didn't look very carefully.

Indeed if you want to just use the WeatherCat custom gauges instead of the original gauges that is as easy as changing the web tags.  Just create for yourself those custom gauges, write down the tag names before closing the gauge creation window and then inserting those tags into the SeaMonkey template in the place of the old gauges.  You can read more on how the custom gauges work starting on page 38 of the current WeatherCat manual.

Cheers, Edouard
Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: bcurry on January 24, 2016, 12:59:03 AM
 Ok,
I see this, but that leads to a question-
The original was something like DWINDD$ and then I see the CUSTOMGAUGE$1$
So, is the routine to just sub the CUSTOMGAUGE$1$ for the DWINDD$ or do they go together like  DWINDCUSTOMGAUGE$1$

Thanks,
Bill
Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: Steve on January 24, 2016, 01:08:57 AM
Just substitute your new gauge for the old on the template, and you'll be golden!

Thanks again to Edouard for putting together a nice user-friendly, customizable template.
Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: bcurry on January 24, 2016, 12:34:22 PM
Thanks-
I think I have the idea, I'll see what I can do...

Bill
Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: bcurry on January 24, 2016, 02:44:50 PM
Hi all,
I played with the template and the Custom Gauges and got that figured out thanks to the tips above.
I think it looks pretty good...
Thanks also to Eduoard who made such a great template - it really dresses up the output and takes advantage of what WeatherCat and my Davis Vantage Pro 2 can do together.
Great fun,
Bill

http://www.billcurry.ca/weather

Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: Steve on January 24, 2016, 03:58:51 PM
That looks great, Bill! Now that you know how to fiddle with the template, you'll probably find other little tweaks to add or modify. It is addictive! ;)
Title: Congrats Bill! (Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates)
Post by: elagache on January 24, 2016, 10:52:20 PM
Dear Bill, Steve, and WeatherCat web spinners!

Looks nice Bill!  [tup]

Glad you took the time to made the modification!  As Steve points out, you can continue to tweak and explore.  Just make sure to keep a copy of the previous success just in case an intended "improvement" becomes seriously messed up.  In a way, that is exactly what these templates were intended to be, just a starting point for people to come up with their own creation.

Cheers, Edouard  [cheers1]
Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: Blicj11 on January 25, 2016, 06:45:04 AM
Bill:

I took a tour of your weather see and I like it. Edouard's template is simple and clean. You've done a nice job with it.
Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: bcurry on January 26, 2016, 11:25:13 AM
Thanks all-
It is really fun to be able to take advantage of some of the power of both the Vantage Pro 2 station and the WeatherCat software in combination to yield the website.
I think you are absolutely right that I will find some more tweaks, as you are also right - it IS addictive!
What a great community to be able to be part of and help each other out.
Again, many thanks,
Bill

http://www.billcurry.ca/weather
Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: idunn on July 09, 2016, 04:11:00 PM
Edouard,

I ran across your templates as I was trying to find out how to do a Custom Webpage.  You have done a lot of work setting up this teaching material.  One question:  Will I be able to pass the webcam in a Custom Webpage on to WU and others? Will it have a URL?  I am not happy with the webcam compression results of WC.

Irving


Title: Problem would be sizing. (Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates)
Post by: elagache on July 09, 2016, 10:51:53 PM
Dear Irving and WeatherCat web spinners,

I ran across your templates as I was trying to find out how to do a Custom Webpage.  You have done a lot of work setting up this teaching material.  One question:  Will I be able to pass the webcam in a Custom Webpage on to WU and others? Will it have a URL?  I am not happy with the webcam compression results of WC.

The webcam image shown in my templates is indeed just a URL and I use the Weather Underground image on my personal page, so that won't be a problem.  However, you might run into a problem because you can take such wonderfully beautiful images in high resolution.  The website was sized around images in the 640x480 pixel range.  I just checked, the overall size of the webpages is set by the outer table and it is set to 824 pixels.  So you would give yourself a larger canvas for your webcam images just by changing that one value.  Still, I would recommend that you don't use images are are too large.  This template is perfect for iPad and smaller laptops.  If you take advantage of the higher resolution available in modern computers, you might find that some people won't be able see your website without scrolling.

Cheers, Edouard
Title: WeatherCat SeaMonkey and Steel Gauges
Post by: bcurry on July 25, 2017, 11:46:12 AM
Hi all,
Just thought I'd give another shout out to the wonderful folks involved in making the Sea Monkey Template.
I have been playing a bit and will continue to tweak it, but I am quite pleased with my site and the way it show information.
I got the Steel Gauges to play within the template, which I think adds a lot to the look, and it certainly adds a lot of interesting detail.
Fun stuff!

Bill

Title: Very nice! (Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey and Steel Gauges)
Post by: elagache on July 25, 2017, 11:46:22 PM
Dear Bill and WeatherCat web spinners,

Just thought I'd give another shout out to the wonderful folks involved in making the Sea Monkey Template.
I have been playing a bit and will continue to tweak it, but I am quite pleased with my site and the way it show information.
I got the Steel Gauges to play within the template, which I think adds a lot to the look, and it certainly adds a lot of interesting detail.

Congratulations!  You've made some very nice upgrades!  That's why I created this template in the first place.  It is a good point of departure and simple enough that the pages can be tweaked easily.  There are some fine templates out there and even some that have a lot of custom features.  Still, that isn't the same as "growing your own."

Thanks for sharing!  [tup]

Cheers, Edouard
Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: xairbusdriver on July 26, 2017, 12:07:33 AM
Nice 'banner' too Bill! ThU5:-)  ;)
Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: bcurry on July 26, 2017, 11:11:13 AM
 [cheer]
Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: Blicj11 on July 27, 2017, 05:02:48 AM
Nice look Bill. The SteelSeries Gauges are pretty cool. I think you may be the first WeatherCatter to add them to Sea Monkey. Nicely done, mate.
Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: bcurry on August 16, 2019, 11:46:55 PM
Hi all,
Had a bit of an interesting challenge.
My sea monkey based website was up and I had gauges on the index page.
I put my whole website (photography business, and the weather site is a sub under this) into a secured site status (got an SSL certificate). The instant I did this, I lost all the gauges on the index, I'm assuming due to the javascript?
I have for now just thrown on my direct reporting Davis to the index page and left the other 3 pages alone - but wondering if anyone else has had an issue with Javasciript inside a secured website?
If there's an easy fix, I'd love to put my gauges back!

Bill
 
My website is at:
www.billcurry.ca/weather
Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: xairbusdriver on August 17, 2019, 12:14:20 AM
If you paid for your Cert, perhaps you will get some support. Personally, I don't think it has anything to do with javascript. But the mention of being a sub-domain also applies to my experience!  ???

I don't use any javascript but I had a similar "instantaneous" event when I tested my site with a free certificate, I lost absolutely every image! I "thanked" the EIG owned hosting company (https://www.reviewhell.com/blog/endurance-international-group-eig-hosting/) for editing my .htaccess file without my permission and got most of the images back. [banghead] After a week of completely useless "help", I reverted back to a plain html5 + PHP, "Not Secured" but nicely working site. It will be a cold day in.......
Well, let's just say it will, be a long time before I attempt any more changes with that hosting company! I'm already planning on moving to a non-EIG host (https://researchasahobby.com/full-list-eig-hosting-companies-brands/) as soon as my contract ends. I couldn't care less about my Google rankings. [rolleyes2]
Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: wvdkuil on August 17, 2019, 08:24:38 AM
Hi all,
Had a bit of an interesting challenge.
My sea monkey based website was up and I had gauges on the index page.
I put my whole website (photography business, and the weather site is a sub under this) into a secured site status (got an SSL certificate). The instant I did this, I lost all the gauges on the index, I'm assuming due to the javascript?
I have for now just thrown on my direct reporting Davis to the index page and left the other 3 pages alone - but wondering if anyone else has had an issue with Javasciript inside a secured website?
If there's an easy fix, I'd love to put my gauges back!
Bill
My website is at:www.billcurry.ca/weather
In most cases it is solved by changing the links used on that page.
All links on a https page have to be https also.
Images with http mostly give only a warning in the browser console.
But javascrips with a http url are not loaded at all.

So if you still have the link to the page with the gauges, open it in a browser.
Right click somewhere on that page, select "Inspect" from the pop-up menu and click on the "Console tab"

Screenshot of the console messages attached for your current page,
You will have to remove those errors (the red ones) and all will work OK.
Wim
Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: bcurry on August 17, 2019, 11:20:31 AM
Thanks all -
I do need the secured site status on my photography page as that is something some folks depend on.
I knew that the java script was probably the issue, and I think that wvdkuil has the answer, if I can figure out where the pages are that it's asking for. I lost the gauges, but I also lost a tide reference page and a moon state page (graphs I re-posted to my page with permission) - and both those are http not https.
wvdkuil -
That does make sense.
So what I'm seeing is that if it doesn't have an https the page won't load it - correct?
I'll hunt through this and see if I can fix it.

Bill

Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: wvdkuil on August 17, 2019, 12:12:42 PM
Thanks all -
I do need the secured site status on my photography page as that is something some folks depend on.
I knew that the java script was probably the issue, and I think that wvdkuil has the answer, if I can figure out where the pages are that it's asking for. I lost the gauges, but I also lost a tide reference page and a moon state page (graphs I re-posted to my page with permission) - and both those are http not https.
wvdkuil -
That does make sense.
So what I'm seeing is that if it doesn't have an https the page won't load it - correct?
I'll hunt through this and see if I can fix it.

Bill
This is nearly at the bottom of the page:
Code: [Select]
  <!-- CDN hosted JQuery library -->
  <script src="http://code.jquery.com/jquery-1.11.1.min.js"></script>
  <!-- or... -->
  <!-- Local JQuery library, do not use if your containing page already pulls in a copy of JQuery -->
  <!-- <script src="scripts/jquery-1.11.1.min.js"></script> -->
That one line with the http link should bew changed to https
Code: [Select]
  <!-- CDN hosted JQuery library -->
  <script src="https://code.jquery.com/jquery-1.11.1.min.js"></script>
Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: bcurry on August 17, 2019, 01:07:47 PM
That fixed it-
Thanks so much!

Bill

Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: Blicj11 on August 21, 2019, 03:49:01 PM
Bill:

Glad to see that wvdkuil guided you back online with the gauges. Just out of curiosity, which version of SteelSeries Gauges are you running?
Title: Re: WeatherCat SeaMonkey web templates now available.
Post by: bcurry on August 21, 2019, 08:44:01 PM
Hi there-
It's the basic series which I tweaked a tad on my own.
The link here to the steel wiki was very helpful:
https://wiki.trixology.com/index.php?title=Steel_Series_Gauges#Basic_SteelSeries_Options (https://wiki.trixology.com/index.php?title=Steel_Series_Gauges#Basic_SteelSeries_Options)

I thought it came out pretty well.

Bill