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NWS Forecast Problems?
xairbusdriver:
Whenever I have problems, I assume the first cause is me. However, I'm simply asking if anyone else has had problems the last few days with the NWS Forecasts. I am mainly getting:
--- Quote ---CLIENT ERROR
HTTP Error: Unsupported HTTP response status 504 Gateway Time-out (
Essential data like temperature is mssing - program stops
--- End quote ---
The basic url I have been using for the last several months is:
https://graphical.weather.gov/xml/SOAP_server/ndfdXMLclient.php...location and other details
Perhaps the NWS has not only changed to security but also the domain? Or, as is usually the case, I've just screwed up something...
Gotta mow the back yard, just got a new mower! I'll research the "Gateway" time-out meaning if it's actually not what it appears to literally mean.
Additional info via Network Utility:
Loopup: graphical.weather.gov -> (e278.dscg.akamaiedge.net) ->23.36.68.92
Ping: PING 23.36.68.92 (23.36.68.92): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 23.36.68.92: icmp_seq=0 ttl=55 time=83.870 ms
64 bytes from 23.36.68.92: icmp_seq=1 ttl=55 time=32.479 ms
...
64 bytes from 23.36.68.92: icmp_seq=9 ttl=55 time=32.187 ms
--- 23.36.68.92 ping statistics ---
10 packets transmitted, 10 packets received, 0.0% packet loss
Traceroute: traceroute to 23.36.68.92 (23.36.68.92), 64 hops max, 72 byte packets
1 10.0.1.1 (10.0.1.1) 0.469 ms 0.264 ms 0.169 ms
2 10.0.0.1 (10.0.0.1) 1.534 ms 1.521 ms 1.779 ms
3 www.xxx.yyy.zzz (www.xxx.yyy.zzz) 15.837 ms 14.290 ms 13.748 ms
4 te5-3-ur01.mycity.ST.malt.comcast.net (www.xxx.yyy.zzz) 16.154 ms 14.375 ms 14.858 ms
5 96.108.172.117 (96.108.172.117) 15.113 ms 14.313 ms 13.208 ms
6 te-0-0-0-0-ur04.hattiesburg.ms.malt.comcast.net (68.85.203.21) 16.745 ms 14.327 ms 14.956 ms
7 be-22258-cr02.dallas.tx.ibone.comcast.net (68.86.93.93) 45.036 ms 24.263 ms 24.890 ms
8 be-11424-cr02.56marietta.ga.ibone.comcast.net (68.86.85.21) 35.018 ms 34.329 ms 34.893 ms
9 hu-0-11-0-5-pe01.56marietta.ga.ibone.comcast.net (68.86.88.222) 32.728 ms 34.278 ms 34.929 ms
10 * * *
11 a23-36-68-92.deploy.static.akamaitechnologies.com (23.36.68.92) 33.930 ms 34.281 ms 35.090 ms
I think, with my minimal "knowledge" that this is saying the problem is with the "SOAP server". I think the "***" means there are three 'timeouts' or delays before the last server (deploy.static.akamaitechnologies.com) responds. ??? Is there a place/site that reports NWS server status? Direct Forecast access seems fine.
elagache:
Dear X-Air and WeatherCat cyber weather data miners,
--- Quote from: xairbusdriver on June 24, 2017, 05:14:20 PM ---Whenever I have problems, I assume the first cause is me. However, I'm simply asking if anyone else has had problems the last few days with the NWS Forecasts. I am mainly getting:
--- Quote ---CLIENT ERROR
HTTP Error: Unsupported HTTP response status 504 Gateway Time-out (
Essential data like temperature is mssing - program stops
--- End quote ---
--- End quote ---
It is possible that the problem isn't the server you are using graphical.weather.gov, but another server that is being queried in the process of generating the forecast.
--- Quote from: xairbusdriver on June 24, 2017, 05:14:20 PM ---The basic url I have been using for the last several months is:
https://graphical.weather.gov/xml/SOAP_server/ndfdXMLclient.php...location and other details
--- End quote ---
For whatever it's worth, this is the forecast URL I've been using for years:
--- Code: ---https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lat=37.8511&lon=-122.15472&site=mtr&smap=1&unit=0&lg=en&FcstType=text
--- End code ---
It works fine but will probably break when NWS finally succeeds in launching their new web forecast API. The parameters appear to be reasonably obvious
--- Quote from: xairbusdriver on June 24, 2017, 05:14:20 PM ---Gotta mow the back yard, just got a new mower!
--- End quote ---
Well, I've still got my old mower, but I just got back from moving our yard. The 10 day heat-wave definitely got the grass growing!
Cheers, Edouard [cheers1]
xairbusdriver:
The "graphical" forecast is actually used for the multi-day, icon filled 'graphics-based' forecast, it's the upper part of my Forecast page. I think the one you use may be for the text display of the Forecast? The Summary forecast (Midnight to Noon and Noon to Midnight) actually always still works. By the way, I'm using the Leuven-NOAA stand-alone PHP scripts.
It is now working, of course... I'll upload a couple of screen shots after dinner. ;)
The site is now reporting the "Time-out" again. [rolleyes2]
wvdkuil:
Since last Thursday until now 2017-06-25 maybe 50% or more of the graphical.weather.gov/xml/ server-requests end in that "gateway time-out" error
The server graphical.weather.gov is reachable normally but the back-end server fails.
This link https://graphical.weather.gov/xml/SOAP_server/ndfdXML.htm is the "human" interface to get the same xml data as the scripts do.
You click a few variables you want and press submit at the bottom.
Those requests fail also with the same frequency as the scripts.
Hope they will see the errors themselves and someone will do something about it shortly.
Wim
xairbusdriver:
Thanks so much, Wim. I knew it wasn't your template, hat's why I hadn't contacted you. I still have your error reporting code enabled otherwise I would have understood even less! I really appreciate your confirming my suspicions and especially that I haven't screwed up something on my end. I haven't even touched the code since changing the "http" to "https" a couple of months ago. [computer]
--- Quote ---Hope they will see the errors themselves and someone will do something about it shortly.
--- End quote ---
I did a minimalist search for a 'contact' link at the NWS site that might be appropriate, but I assumed they would be getting reports from commercial users by now. Perhaps the majority of heir users are hobbyists?! [banghead] I hope it doesn't indicate a problem with funding or lack of manpower at the organization! I hear reports that NOAA is getting negative comments about replacing their weather satellites. [rolleyes2]
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