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FTP problem (I think)
« on: May 18, 2012, 03:02:35 PM »
I've been publishing a local weather site using the Atkins template and an auto-mounted iDisk for a couple of years.  It has worked like a charm, but as everyone knows, iDisks are going away at the end of June, so I started migrating my site to a non-Apple server.  I've run into a problem that has me stumped.  I first ran into this with LWC2, so decided to go ahead and upgrade to WeatherCat.  Problem is identical with WeatherCat (which shouldn't be surprising).

Only about half of the files needed are actually being FTP'd to the site.  When I look in the WeatherCat log, I see two FTP processes kick off once every 10 minutes (as they should, that is the update time I've selected).  I have plenty of bandwidth, and they both finish what they seem to think are all the files necessary in less than one minute.  The source directory contains all the files needed to create the web page, but the FTP processes aren't uploading them.  It isn't an ownership problem (the files are all rwx by owner, me).  I've tried both with and without the checkbox to sync uploading with data-fetching, and that made no difference.

Should mention that I'm running OS-X 10.7.4 (Lion).

Can anyone think of what might be going wrong?
Thanks,
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Does it work okay "manually" ? (Re: FTP problem)
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2012, 08:09:13 PM »
Hi Bill,

Hmm, strange FTP problem.  I can't think of any obvious way to get half the files uploaded.  The one possibility it to try configuring WeatherCat to use only 1 FTP thread (under the Misc2 preference tab.)  I've seen service providers do really strange things like "throw away" requests.  I'm having problems with that on accessing my POP mail accounts.  This may be a measure to prevent denial of service.

The other thing to try is uploading the files in the Custom Web folder "manually" using whatever is your favorite FTP client.  If there is a problem, perhaps the client will generate errors that will help you spot the problem.

Keep us posted on this situation!

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Re: FTP problem (I think)
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2012, 09:53:45 PM »
Hi Bill
 Have you tried to use something like YummyFTP to upload your files to your web site to see that they are all getting there that might tell you if it is your web provider or WeatherCat
Just a thought
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Re: FTP problem (I think)
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2012, 11:00:52 PM »
No progress, just more puzzles.

First of all, I modified the site creation target directory from the one on my iDisk to one that is strictly local (on the theory that there might be something funny with the way FTP was seeing files on the iDisk).

No Joy, it made no difference.

Next, I tried Edouard's suggestion, in fact I tried 1, 2, and 3 FTP threads with no luck.

Finally, I fell back on a straight old-fashioned manual FTP session.  I used two mput commands, mput *.html and mput *.jpg.  There were no error messages and all 45 files were successfully transferred.

Color me baffled.

Bill

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In the baffled club as well. (Re: FTP problem)
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2012, 12:30:53 AM »
Hi Bill and WeatherCat fans,

No progress, just more puzzles.

. . . . . . .

Color me baffled.

Uh . . . . same here. 

I don't know anyone who has tried setting the Custom Web directory to be their iDisk, but there is indeed no reason why that shouldn't work and changing it to a local directory rules out problems there.

The only thing I can think of is asking you to send to us the log entries when WeatherCat is performing the FTP uploading to see if we spot anything?  You could just cut'n'paste the entries as they scroll by on the WeatherCat Console.

As they say . . . . the plot thickens . . . .  ???

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Re: FTP problem (I think)
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2012, 04:50:52 AM »
OK, here is the complete FTP log.  As you can see, it only transferred nine files instead of the 45 or so it should have.


 11:22:57 PM 18-May-2012:  CustomWeb: Primed; waiting for weather sync.
 11:25:10 PM 18-May-2012: 
 11:25:10 PM 18-May-2012:  Fetching data from weather station...
 11:25:10 PM 18-May-2012:  Temperature: 65?F  Dewpoint: 63?F  Windchill: 65?F Pressure: 29 inHg  Av. Windspeed: 0 MPH from SE by S. Current Conditions: N/A
 11:25:13 PM 18-May-2012:  CustomWeb: Processing custom web pages...
 11:25:56 PM 18-May-2012:  CustomWeb: Generating gauges.
 11:26:44 PM 18-May-2012:  FTP1: FTP upload starting.
 11:26:44 PM 18-May-2012:  FTP1: Uploading all_dialsc.jpg.
 11:26:47 PM 18-May-2012:  FTP2: FTP upload starting.
 11:26:47 PM 18-May-2012:  FTP2: Uploading customgraph1.jpg.
 11:26:47 PM 18-May-2012:  FTP1: Finished. Uploaded 113496 bytes in 4 seconds at 28308 bytes per second.
 11:26:49 PM 18-May-2012:  FTP3: FTP upload starting.
 11:26:49 PM 18-May-2012:  FTP3: Uploading customgraph2.jpg.
 11:26:50 PM 18-May-2012:  FTP2: Finished. Uploaded 103201 bytes in 3 seconds at 26694 bytes per second.
 11:26:51 PM 18-May-2012:  FTP1: FTP upload starting.
 11:26:51 PM 18-May-2012:  FTP1: Uploading index.html.
 11:26:52 PM 18-May-2012:  FTP3: Finished. Uploaded 138816 bytes in 4 seconds at 33931 bytes per second.
 11:26:53 PM 18-May-2012:  FTP1: Finished. Uploaded 3427 bytes in 3 seconds at 1010 bytes per second.
 11:26:54 PM 18-May-2012:  FTP2: FTP upload starting.
 11:26:54 PM 18-May-2012:  FTP2: Uploading wx.css.
 11:26:54 PM 18-May-2012:  FTP3: FTP upload starting.
 11:26:54 PM 18-May-2012:  FTP3: Uploading all_dialsc.jpg.
 11:26:56 PM 18-May-2012:  FTP1: FTP upload starting.
 11:26:56 PM 18-May-2012:  FTP2: Finished. Uploaded 871 bytes in 3 seconds at 238 bytes per second.
 11:26:56 PM 18-May-2012:  FTP1: Uploading customgraph1.jpg.
 11:26:57 PM 18-May-2012:  FTP3: Finished. Uploaded 113496 bytes in 3 seconds at 29116 bytes per second.
 11:26:58 PM 18-May-2012:  FTP2: FTP upload starting.
 11:26:58 PM 18-May-2012:  FTP2: Uploading wx.html.bak.html.
 11:26:59 PM 18-May-2012:  FTP1: Finished. Uploaded 103201 bytes in 3 seconds at 26095 bytes per second.
 11:27:00 PM 18-May-2012:  CustomWeb: Finished parsing.
 11:27:00 PM 18-May-2012:  CustomWeb: Finished processing custom web pages.
 11:27:01 PM 18-May-2012:  FTP2: Finished. Uploaded 3460 bytes in 3 seconds at 910 bytes per second.
 11:27:01 PM 18-May-2012:  FTP3: FTP upload starting.
 11:27:01 PM 18-May-2012:  FTP3: Uploading wxhistoric.html.
 11:27:04 PM 18-May-2012:  FTP3: Finished. Uploaded 10617 bytes in 3 seconds at 3041 bytes per second.
 11:28:55 PM 18-May-2012: 
 11:28:55 PM 18-May-2012:  Fetching data from weather station...
 11:28:55 PM 18-May-2012:  Temperature: 65?F  Dewpoint: 63?F  Windchill: 65?F Pressure: 29 inHg  Av. Windspeed: 0 MPH from SE by S. Current Conditions: N/A
 11:30:29 PM 18-May-2012: 

Thanks,
Bill

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"static" files and HTML source folder? (Re: FTP problem)
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2012, 07:32:32 PM »
Hi Bill and WeatherCat troubleshooters,

Bummer dude, not much to go on there.   :(

Not that this would obviously help, but do you used the custom web directory for tests on your location computer?  If not, you might try removing all the files that are "static" (i.e. files where WeatherCat doesn't subsitute anything.)  For example, you could just upload wx.css and avoid uploading it each time.  If you are using the wx template, that would be the only file that WeatherCat would upload everything anyway, so admittedly not changing much.

Could you send us a list of files of your HTML Source folder?  If you are using the WX templates, there really should only be two files in that directory: index.html and wximprovedalmanac.html.  If you have other files sometimes it causes WeatherCat to "trip up" and that could explain why the other files aren't generated.

Sorry, just a hunch, but that's all I've got right now.

Cheers, Edouard

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Re: FTP problem (I think)
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2012, 03:28:24 AM »
OK - the html source directory is "WeatherWeb" and the contents are:


Straylight:WeatherWeb wrw$ ls -al
total 40
drwxr-xr-x  1 wrw  staff   264 May 19 22:16 .
drwxr-xr-x@ 1 wrw  staff   296 May 16 13:22 ..
-rw-r--r--@ 1 wrw  staff  6148 May 19 22:16 .DS_Store
-rw-r--r--@ 1 wrw  staff  3464 May  8 08:53 index.html
-rw-r--r--  1 wrw  staff   871 Jan  3 20:24 wx.css
-rw-r--r--@ 1 wrw  staff  1161 Jan 14 01:04 wxhistoric.html
Straylight:WeatherWeb wrw$

The output from the Custom Web generation goes into WhirwindWeather and is below:


Straylight:WhirlwindWeather wrw$ ls -al
total 2928
drwxr-xr-x  1 wrw  staff    1282 May 16 14:30 .
drwxr-xr-x@ 1 wrw  staff     296 May 16 13:22 ..
-rw-r--r--  1 wrw  staff  127297 May 16 14:30 all_dials.jpg
-rw-r--r--  1 wrw  staff  130313 May 16 14:30 all_dialsc.jpg
-rw-r--r--  1 wrw  staff   15851 May 16 14:30 barometer.jpg
-rw-r--r--  1 wrw  staff   16012 May 16 14:30 cloudbase.jpg
-rw-r--r--  1 wrw  staff   55340 May 16 14:30 cloudbase1.jpg
-rw-r--r--  1 wrw  staff   78950 May 16 14:30 customgraph1.jpg
-rw-r--r--  1 wrw  staff  110354 May 16 14:30 customgraph2.jpg
-rw-r--r--  1 wrw  staff   16037 May 16 14:30 dewpoint.jpg
-rw-r--r--  1 wrw  staff   49449 May 16 14:30 dewpoint1.jpg
-rw-r--r--  1 wrw  staff   16296 May 16 14:30 heatindex.jpg
-rw-r--r--  1 wrw  staff   51355 May 16 14:30 heatindex1.jpg
-rw-r--r--  1 wrw  staff   16322 May 16 14:30 humin.jpg
-rw-r--r--  1 wrw  staff   16254 May 16 14:30 humout.jpg
-rw-r--r--  1 wrw  staff    3425 May 16 14:30 index.html
-rw-r--r--  1 wrw  staff   45144 May 16 14:30 precipitation1.jpg
-rw-r--r--  1 wrw  staff   46272 May 16 14:30 precipitationc1.jpg
-rw-r--r--  1 wrw  staff   47914 May 16 14:30 pressure1.jpg
-rw-r--r--  1 wrw  staff   16189 May 16 14:30 rain1h.jpg
-rw-r--r--  1 wrw  staff   15915 May 16 14:30 rain24h.jpg
-rw-r--r--  1 wrw  staff   53642 May 16 14:30 rh1.jpg
-rw-r--r--  1 wrw  staff   46948 May 16 14:30 rhin1.jpg
-rw-r--r--  1 wrw  staff   44692 May 16 14:30 solarrad1.jpg
-rw-r--r--  1 wrw  staff   50967 May 16 14:30 temperature1.jpg
-rw-r--r--  1 wrw  staff   16748 May 16 14:30 tempin.jpg
-rw-r--r--  1 wrw  staff   47339 May 16 14:30 tempin1.jpg
-rw-r--r--  1 wrw  staff   16937 May 16 14:30 tempout.jpg
-rw-r--r--  1 wrw  staff   43904 May 16 14:30 uv1.jpg
-rw-r--r--  1 wrw  staff   16247 May 16 14:30 windchill.jpg
-rw-r--r--  1 wrw  staff   50975 May 16 14:30 windchill1.jpg
-rw-r--r--  1 wrw  staff   15030 May 16 14:30 winddirection.jpg
-rw-r--r--  1 wrw  staff   59468 May 16 14:30 winddirection1.jpg
-rw-r--r--  1 wrw  staff   15245 May 16 14:30 windrun.jpg
-rw-r--r--  1 wrw  staff   14859 May 16 14:30 windspeed.jpg
-rw-r--r--  1 wrw  staff   53394 May 16 14:30 windspeed1.jpg
-rw-r--r--  1 wrw  staff     871 May 16 14:30 wx.css
-rw-r--r--  1 wrw  staff   11545 May 16 14:30 wxhistoric.html
Straylight:WhirlwindWeather wrw$

And as you can see from the FTP listing a couple of messages above, only a subset of these files are getting FTP'd to the server.

Sigh...
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Re: FTP problem (I think)
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2012, 05:01:47 PM »
Hi Bill,
My best guess is the resources not uploaded are not referenced whilst processing your tags and hence aren't uploaded.

Best regards,
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Maybe working as intended. (Re: FTP problem)
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2012, 07:58:04 PM »
Hi Bill, Stu, and WeatherCat fans,

Hmm, I think Stu hit the nail on the head.  The WX templates don't have much in the way of graphs do they?  Do the web pages look incomplete?  If so, could there be typos or other omissions that are causing WeatherCat to fail to detect the graphs that is supposed to be generated?  I never got the WX template to work the way I wanted it to, so I don't recall all the details.  I know it has a few graphs, but I thought was more like half-dozen or so.  Are they missing?

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Re: FTP problem (I think)
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2012, 08:26:25 PM »
Stu and Edouard.  I don't think that's it.  The WhirlwindPoint weatherweb as it OUGHT to look can be found at:

   http://web.me.com/wrw/WhirlwindWeather/  (this is a live site - updated every 10 minutes, straight out of the processing.)

The results of asking WeatherCat to treat that directory as the source directory for the upload to the commercial server can be found here:

   http://www.whirlwind-pt-dev.com/WhirlwindWeather/  (also live, also updated once every 10 minutes).

The eight jpg files that are missing are always exactly the same eight, and they are most definitely files that are output as a result of processing my tags by WC.
I'm sure it is something simple, but I'm sure not seeing it.
Thanks,
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Back in the baffled club. (Re: FTP problem)
« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2012, 09:52:46 PM »
Howdy Bill and WeatherCat troubleshooters,

Stu and Edouard.  I don't think that's it.  . . . . . .

*Heavy Sigh* . . . . Yup, that's convincing.  I checked processed HTML and indeed WeatherCat is converting the tags into image filenames.  So WeatherCat should be adding those 8 files to the queue.  That leaves only to the fact that this was running on iDisk somehow causing things to trip up, and as you mention, changing to a local directory on your hard drive didn't help by itself.

Stu is supposed to be "back on deck" tomorrow, so hopefully he can do some more digging.  I sure can't imagine how this could happen.

Sorry,  Edouard

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Re: FTP problem (I think)
« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2012, 04:33:38 PM »
Thanks for the info Bill.

Could you zip up and post as an attachment (or PM to me) your template files/folder - I'll take a look to see if there's anything I can spot.

Many thanks.



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Re: FTP problem (I think)
« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2012, 08:46:28 PM »
Hi Bill,

Looking at your web page source, I noticed all the problematic image files sit within your 'First Column of Weather Graphs' and you are using a different style sheet (yui-u first) compared to the images uploading and showing properly in the subsequent column (yui-u).

I wonder if this is a coincidence...  :-\  It may be worth checking this:

1. Although it does not explain why this works on the original website, I think there is an <div class="yui-g"> to many in your HTML file (without a corresponding </div> to end it), and it is right before you open the column for the problematic images:

         <div class="yui-g">
<!--- Begin First Column of Weather Graphs -->
             <div class="yui-u first">
               <img src="temperature1.jpg" alt="External temperature graph"/>
               <img src="heatindex1.jpg" alt="Heat index graph"/>
               <img src="pressure1.jpg" alt="Pressure graph"/>
               <img src="windspeed1.jpg" alt="Wind speed graph"/>
             </div>


Try removing the first line.

2. If no difference; what happens if you move the tags for (e.g.) temperature.jpg to the second column in your source WXI HTML file? Does it show properly now?

I'm by no means an HTML/CSS expert, but this may help you get closer to the source of the problem and this may not be an FTP problem.

Good luck!

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Re: FTP problem (I think)
« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2012, 11:05:35 PM »
That's a really interesting comment, and may contain a big clue.  I assume you are looking at the web page source as seen by your browser.  If that is true, then that source is very different from the source I'm feeding into WeatherCat - and that in turn may be what is leading to a bad list of files to upload.  First a couple of comments on the html, then the now-current html, then the html source itself.

First, I'm not sure why the <div class="yui-u first"> and <div class="yui-u"> columns have been displaying properly without the second one being identified properly as <div class="yui-u second">, but they have been (at least when I did my initial testing two years ago on a local apache server, and on the Apple server) - but whatever, the source has now been fixed and the first column is <div class="yui-u first"> and the second column is <div class="yui-u second">.  As you can see, that did NOT fix the problem.

I would also note that the missing files are NOT all in the first column, there are four JPEGs missing from the first and four more from the second.  If there is a <div> that doesn't have a matching </dev>, neither I nor BBEdit (Balance Tags command) is seeing it.

The relevant html source I'm feeding to WC is below:


<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE html
     PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN"
    "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" lang="en"> <!--- Change the language decleration here to suit. For example, de, es, etc -->
<head>
   <title>Current Weather for Whirlwind Point</title>
   <link rel="stylesheet" href="http://yui.yahooapis.com/2.5.1/build/reset-fonts-grids/reset-fonts-grids.css" type="text/css" />
   <link rel="stylesheet" href="wx.css" type="text/css" />
   
</head>
<body>
   <div id="doc" class="yui-t7">
      <div id="hd"><h1>Current Weather for Whirlwind Point</h1>
         <h5>Last update: D$</h5>
      </div>
      <div id="bd">
<!--- Menu. -->
         <div class="yui-g">
               <a href="http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?CityName=Oak Ridge&amp;state=TN&amp;site=MRX&amp;textField1=36.0321&amp;textField2=-84.1836" class="menu">Current Forecast</a>
            <a href="wxhistoric.html" class="menu">Historic Weather Data</a>
         </div>
<!--- End Menu -->
         <div class="yui-g">
            <p>Current Temp: CT$</p>
            <p>Current Heat Index: STAT$HEATINDEX:CURRENT$ TEMPUNITS$</p>
            <p>High Today: STAT$TEMPERATURE:MAX:TODAY$ TEMPUNITS$ at STAT$TEMPERATURE:MAX:TODAY:TIME$</p>
            <p>Low Today: STAT$TEMPERATURE:MIN:TODAY$ TEMPUNITS$ at STAT$TEMPERATURE:MIN:TODAY:TIME$</p>
            <p>Current Barometer: CP$</p>
            <p>Highest Windspeed Today: STAT$WINDSPEED:MAX:TODAY$ MPH at STAT$WINDSPEED:MAX:TODAY:TIME$</p>
         </div>
         <div class="yui-g">
            <p>Current Rainrate: CR$</p>
            <p>Today's Rain: STAT$RAIN:TOTAL:TODAY$ RAINUNITS$</p>
            <p>Rain This Month: STAT$RAIN:TOTAL:THISMONTH$ RAINUNITS$</p>
            <p>Rain This Year: STAT$RAIN:TOTAL:THISYEAR$ RAINUNITS$</p>
         </div>
         <div class="yui-g">
<!--- Begin First Column of Weather Graphs -->
             <div class="yui-u first">
               <img src="temperature1.jpg" alt="External temperature graph"/>
               <img src="heatindex1.jpg" alt="Heat index graph"/>
               <img src="pressure1.jpg" alt="Pressure graph"/>
               <img src="windspeed1.jpg" alt="Wind speed graph"/>
             </div>
<!--- End First Column of Weather Graphs -->
<!--- Begin Second Column of Weather Graphs -->
             <div class="yui-u second">
                <img src="precipitation1.jpg" alt="Rain rate graph"/>
               <img src="precipitationc1.jpg" alt="Daily rain graph"/>
               <img src="rh1.jpg" alt="External humidity graph"/>
               <img src="cloudbase1.jpg" alt="Cloud base graph"/>
             </div>
<!--- End Second Column of Weather Graphs -->   
         </div>
         <div class="yui-g">
             <p>CUSTOMGRAPH$1$</p>
             <p>CUSTOMGRAPH$2$</p>
            <p>DALLC$</p>
         </div>
<!---Radar. Replace the link below with a link to your local radar image -->
         <div class="yui-g">
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      <h6>Weather data produced by <a href="http://www.lightsoft.co.uk/LWC/LWC">LWC V2.00, Build 2112.</a></h6></div>
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