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Re: The Coming U.S. Election
« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2016, 06:25:41 AM »
It's a mess. Thanks for having the courage to eloquently share one of your passions, Herb.

As the great parliamentarian Edmund Burke said, ?The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.?
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Requires a concerted movement (Re: The Coming U.S. Election)
« Reply #16 on: August 22, 2016, 07:58:39 PM »
Dear X-Air, Herb, Blick, and WeatherCat concerned citizens,

I'm no legal scholar (nor much of one on any other subject!) but I don't think the election system (Electoral College) would care about "None of the Above" votes.

For this scheme to work the write in candidate "None of Above" would actually have to win enough states to deprive Clinton of her Electoral College majority.  It would require some political effort, but the public dislike of both candidates should be sufficient for the scheme to work.  Simply having a large number of write in candidates would cause the election count to grind almost to a halt.  Every one would have to be counted by hand.  It would be an extreme protest indeed.

As the great parliamentarian Edmund Burke said, ?The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.?

Sadly, that appears to be exactly what is happening . . . .  :(

Edouard

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Re: The Coming U.S. Election
« Reply #17 on: August 22, 2016, 08:42:26 PM »
Thanks to the "technology is king sales force" there are actually
several States that don't even have anything to count
"with hands". It's all digital! Of course, we can rest
assured that
nothing can go wrong...
nothing can go wrong...
no thing can go rong... [computer] [banghead]
Some systems actually use a Windows OS! [rolleyes2] The worst part is that they are usually "dormant" for the majority of the year. So compromises may not be found until just before/after the election. [blush] On the positive side, that may also mean they are not sitting around being attacked 24/7/365...

My biggest problem with most conspiracy theories is that they are so far removed from everyday life that people feel unable to deal directly with anyone or anything involved. I think this leads to hopelessness and a feeling that "I can only deal with problems in my life! Don't bother me with conspiracies that defy normal human comprehension." I don't believe there are ever enough people in existence with enough patience, cleverness, and ability to form, much less keep alive, any the the vast conspiracies we've heard about since the Dark Ages. The human heart is simply too controlled by greed and personal ambition to allow that much cooperation!

The groups mentioned have been reported to be "the problem" since the '50s, if not before. I know I've heard of them all my 'adult' life. "Trilateral" has been used in so many organizations it's difficult to know exactly who or what is being talked about. The same goes for many "Councils on Foreign...".

And now, my opinion: I think what we need is for all citizens to learn that they can, by genuine cooperation and concerted efforts change what is happening in this country. We deserve the problems we get when we don't become part of the solution.

Now, I've said my piece, I'm tired and I'm going to go sit
on my derri?re the rest of the year! At least as soon
as I mow the grass...
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Re: The Coming U.S. Election
« Reply #18 on: August 22, 2016, 10:07:07 PM »
Three things are going to happen regardless of what Twinkie gets in office.
1. Things are going to get better.
2. Things are going to get worse.
3. Things are going to remain the same.


The major concern is to get everyone out to vote regardless of who they want as their leader, president, tyrant or savior.  Vote
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Re: The Coming U.S. Election
« Reply #19 on: August 23, 2016, 06:12:33 AM »
Thanks Blick! Appreciate your support. It really is a mess. I knew we had a dysfunctional congress, but I had no idea that the good old boys club was packed with self serving thieves and traitors. Lawyers, huh?

Edouard, what you are imagining with the "none of the above" vote is when you have an educated constituency, willing to work with one another to get things done. My guess is that well over half the voters in this country are blithering idiots, and the good majority of those were made that way by the wholesale destruction of our public school system by the Supremes back in the mid 60's. I can't help but wonder if that decision was paid for by Soros as well. The only thing that will save us from total anarchy, which is what will happen should they ship more than 60,000 savages here with prehistoric morals based on an ancient theocracy, is to seize power from the democrats, start investigations, and separate the good from bad apples by putting the bad ones behind stone walls and barbed wire to do a little soul searching. Except for Soros. He would still be dangerous in captivity, with his billions stashed around the world. Firing squad for him!

I agree with you, X-air. Most people will jump on a good conspiracy theory, until it starts to get a little complex, then their brain starts acting like that little marble going round and round the roulette wheel, with nothing going in or out.

Aardvark, I certainly can agree with that. I just might add though, everyone should strive to be an informed voter. Question everything, including yourself, then vote!

I've got more troubles here, as well. My brother Terry who lives in Texas, a veteran of the Marine Corps in the Vietnam era, is in the hospital with colon cancer. They are not sure if he'll make it through the week. Other brother who lives here, David and I are driving down to Dallas tomorrow to try and be with him. Our sister, Sheila, is already there and quite frankly is needing some help. David took her down there a little over a week ago. I couldn't go then, because I had a hemorrhoid-ectomy scheduled. Didn't want to miss out on that. No sirree! Going back for my followup in the morning before we leave. When it rains, it pours! Out of 4 boys, David is the youngest and Terry is next to the youngest. He is 3 years behind me. I'm 68 and the oldest. The other one is Ernie, and he is just recovering from a bout with emphysema.

So, I wont be posting for awhile. Don't know how long I'll be down there.

I appreciate everyone's comments. It's still a good while until the election. I just don't know if I can stand the suspense.

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Herb

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Re: The Coming U.S. Election
« Reply #20 on: August 23, 2016, 12:53:44 PM »
Hi All,

I don't like conspiracy theories, especially not on this forum. Wikipedia has a place where such beliefs can be added. "List of conspiracy theories"  Here is a passage from Wiki.

"One of the more popular anti-Catholic tracts of the time was written by Samuel Morse, who, in 1835, published a book called Foreign Conspiracies Against the Liberties of the United States, which alleged the Catholics were part of a larger conspiracy based in Austria to install a member of the House of Habsburg as the imperial ruler of the US.[39]"

Sounds sort of familiar.

Regards,  Irving

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Re: The Coming U.S. Election
« Reply #21 on: August 23, 2016, 03:06:56 PM »
Herb, be safe and make these family memories count.
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We should try to do good. (Re: The Coming U.S. Election)
« Reply #22 on: August 23, 2016, 10:19:37 PM »
Dear X-Air, Herb, Weatheraardvark, Irving, Blick, and WeatherCat faithful,

Edouard, what you are imagining with the "none of the above" vote is when you have an educated constituency, willing to work with one another to get things done. My guess is that well over half the voters in this country are blithering idiots . . . .

I'm not as pessimistic as you are because wise or not, the public is really angry at the present situation.  The notion of a "None of Above" protest simply needs to go viral and I really think many many people will write on their ballots.  It isn't a matter of wisdom, but anger.

In any case, . . . .

As the great parliamentarian Edmund Burke said, ?The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.?

I'm going to try to write my scheme as carefully and thoughtfully as I can and send it to Assemblywoman Catharine B. Baker

https://ad16.asmrc.org/

As one of the very few Republicans in the California government, she has had to try to travel a middle ground and must understand how wrong the presidential electron really is.  Perhaps she can kick the idea up to someone who can make it happen.  I'll send the same letter to the local papers and see what happens.

That's the best I can do.  I'm up to my neck in troubles and cannot pursue the matter any further.

Edouard

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Re: We should try to do good. (Re: The Coming U.S. Election)
« Reply #23 on: August 24, 2016, 02:04:39 AM »
That's the best I can do.  I'm up to my neck in troubles and cannot pursue the matter any further.

One cannot be asked to do more than one's best. Sorry for your troubles. Hang on.
Blick


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Re: The Coming U.S. Election
« Reply #24 on: August 24, 2016, 08:39:58 PM »
One of the issues I hear from the Trump Organization is regarding the 2nd Amendment and gun control.  Saying that Crooked HIllary wants to take our guns.

In reality, she wants to control who can buy guns.  The following item should bring the whole thing into a better light.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fB7MwvqCtlk


I do believe that it needs to be harder to buy a weapon . Yet here is a kid who can't drive, buy booze, cigarettes, porn, lottery ticket but can go to a gun show and walk away with a nice rifle... Staged sure, to mention a point.

So who do you want to believe
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Re: The Coming U.S. Election
« Reply #25 on: August 29, 2016, 12:34:28 AM »
Well, I'm back. My brother died 8/25/16, at 5:45 AM in the VA Hospital in Dallas. For all the terrible reports in the news about the VA, they certainly treated us right. Terry continued to get disability right up to his death. They provided him round the clock care, and fulfilled his every need. They covered all hospital expense, cremation and shipping of remains. The three of us there in his final hours were furnished free accommodations on hospital grounds at The Fisher House. They provided him an honor guard from his room to the lift that lowers the body to the morgue. They even furnished counseling for us survivors.

Our biggest problem was that the will granted the executor power of attorney until his death, but the power of executor could not take place until probate. So, we wait for the death certificate, which is required for filing, then a court date where the executor must appear and be sworn before a judge. We can continue with funeral arrangements, but we can't put the house (no lien) on the market or sell his 2016 Chevy truck ($42K lien) until probate is done. However, I think we may have found someone to buy the truck for the payoff once probate has passed.

It has been a grueling 5 days! I've almost forgotten what I started this thread about.

Oh, yeah. That.

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Re: The Coming U.S. Election
« Reply #26 on: August 29, 2016, 01:18:29 AM »
Good to have you back home safely, I'm sure your brother and sister wil be having many chances to remember the good times. Just try to remember those when dealing with the legal system!

I didn't know Fisher House(s) had any connection to the VA. They are mainly for service personnel family members so they can be near the serviceman while they are in military hospitals. We have a new one in TN and one just across the KY line next to Ft Campell. My wife had raising money for them several years ago when she was the TN State Regent of the DAR. I think they raised over $25,000 in those three years. But it's good to know of a similar use, regardless of the duty status of the serviceman! [cheer]
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Re: The Coming U.S. Election
« Reply #27 on: August 29, 2016, 04:28:44 PM »
Herb:

Sorry for your loss, but sounds like it was in his best interest to move on.

Probate stinks, so make sure your will is up to date. You still have to wait for a death certificate but you don't have to go through probate if your will properly lays it out. We went through this with my Mom when she died and her will make it really simple for us to sell her home.
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Condolences on the loss of your brother (Was: The Coming U.S. Election)
« Reply #28 on: August 29, 2016, 07:59:53 PM »
Condolences on the loss of your brother Herb,

I'm glad his passing was treated with respect and compassion.

Best of luck in the upcoming legal mess.  Tort reform is so desperately needed in this country, but alas, the foxes are guarding the chicken house in this case.

Edouard

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Re: The Coming U.S. Election
« Reply #29 on: September 07, 2016, 04:54:34 PM »
Who says we don't have a choice?!
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"NOLAND, Mary Anne Alfriend. Faced with the prospect of voting for either Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton, Mary Anne Noland of Richmond chose, instead, to pass into the eternal love of God on Sunday, May 15, 2016, at the age of 68..."Richmond (VA) Times-Dispatch, May 16, 2016, Obituaries
Frankly, this is one of the better choices I've heard of! [banghead]
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