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Title: WeatherCat version 3
Post by: N4KHQ on February 08, 2018, 06:08:34 PM
Any projections on when WeatherCat Version 3 will be released?

Thanks
Title: Re: WeatherCat version 3
Post by: xairbusdriver on February 08, 2018, 07:54:03 PM
You mean the ?eta (http://athena.trixology.com/index.php?topic=2689.msg25983#msg25983) one now in user testing? Join the testers and probably be the first to know. :)
Title: Re: WeatherCat version 3
Post by: JohnDoe1983 on February 10, 2018, 08:22:07 PM
How can we be a beta tester?

That should be fun to test here in Quebec Canada where the temperature are extreme.

Cheers
 [snow]
Title: Re: WeatherCat version 3
Post by: xairbusdriver on February 10, 2018, 09:15:09 PM
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How can we be a ?eta tester?

Maybe PM Stu the WeatherCat Developer? He may not need any more testers at the moment, however.

Do understand that ererz can appear and you will be responsible for reporting that as well as testing anything he might ask. ?eta testing is not simply installing and letting an app run. It requires commitment to testing as many functions the app may have to help the developer find and fix problems. You should also be ready and capable of reporting information from logs in Console.

You should also be prepared for any crashes that the app may cause and make multiple backups of your all data, not just the WC data. That might even include re-installing your Operating System. It would probably be best to have WC running on a dedicated machine and operating 24/7.
Title: Re: WeatherCat version 3
Post by: WCDev on February 11, 2018, 11:16:16 PM
You can get the latest beta in the Development forum - http://athena.trixology.com/index.php?board=3.0

As to release date, see http://athena.trixology.com/index.php?topic=2656.0 - expected 1st quarter.

Cheers.
Title: Re: WeatherCat version 3
Post by: JohnDoe1983 on February 15, 2018, 02:55:32 PM
Thanks for the info.
Title: Re: WeatherCat version 3
Post by: aware on March 09, 2018, 11:24:07 PM
I seem to be having difficulty connecting to Weather Underground while on Beta 3.  I didn't know if this was a known issue with the Beta (if so, I have no complaint, I chose to install the Beta) or if this was just the current sh**show that is Weather Underground.

Austin
Title: Welcome and what sort of problems? (Re: WeatherCat version 3)
Post by: elagache on March 09, 2018, 11:45:24 PM
Dear Austin and WeatherCat welcome wagon,

First things first, welcome Austin to the WeatherCat forum! (http://www.canebas.org/WeatherCat/Forum_support_documents/Custom_emoticons/welcome_smiley.gif)

I seem to be having difficulty connecting to Weather Underground while on Beta 3.  I didn't know if this was a known issue with the Beta (if so, I have no complaint, I chose to install the Beta) or if this was just the current sh**show that is Weather Underground.

Can you tell us a bit more about when this problem started?  Were you able to connect to Weather Underground using WeatherCat 2.x and the problem started when you upgraded?  Could you check the WeatherCat log for any error messages?  That might explain the source of the problem.  Also, Weather Underground is continuing to have sporadic outages.  Is the problem continuing to occur or does it come and go?

Let us know what you uncover.

Cheers, Edouard  [cheers1]
Title: Re: WeatherCat version 3
Post by: aware on March 10, 2018, 01:46:47 AM
Edouard,

Thanks for the welcome. 

Long story short--I bought my Davis Weather Station and WeatherCat 2 when there was a little disturbance in the Gulf of Mexico called Harvey.  5 days later, we were wiped out with flood water.

After moving back in the house a week or so ago I decided it was time for a fresh start so I decided to install the WeatherCat 3 Beta.  Both WeatherCloud and PWS are reporting fine, so I suspect this is a Weather Underground issue, but since I am running the Beta I wanted to make sure this was not a known issue.

Thanks,
Austin
Title: Re: WeatherCat version 3
Post by: Blicj11 on March 10, 2018, 03:14:13 AM
The only known issues so far are on Wunderground's end of things. I am one of the testers who has been on a development version of WeatherCat 3 for about 18 months now. The only issues I ever had with WU were WU's fault.
Title: Re: WeatherCat version 3
Post by: aware on March 10, 2018, 03:39:04 AM
The only known issues so far are on Wunderground's end of things. I am one of the testers who has been on a development version of WeatherCat 3 for about 18 months now. The only issues I ever had with WU were WU's fault.

Not surprised.  Thanks for the info.
Title: Still some WU shakedown issues (Re: WeatherCat version 3)
Post by: elagache on March 10, 2018, 09:57:15 PM
Dear Austin, Blick, and WeatherCat troubleshooters,

I'm still observing some FTP upload errors today which are related to uploading webcam images to Weather Underground.  So they are still having some "shakedown issues" with the move to their new cloud platform.

So we'll just have to continue to "grin and bear it."

Cheers, Edouard
Title: Re: Still some WU shakedown issues (Re: WeatherCat version 3)
Post by: Felix on March 11, 2018, 01:41:55 PM

I'm still observing some FTP upload errors today which are related to uploading webcam images to Weather Underground. 


Edouard, are you using Active or Passive FTP mode?
Title: Using WeatherCat for webcam (Re: Still some WU shakedown issues)
Post by: elagache on March 11, 2018, 10:46:27 PM
Dear Felix and WeatherCat power users,

Edouard, are you using Active or Passive FTP mode?

I'm using WeatherCat itself to upload the webcam images and I don't see any way to set the way WeatherCat uploads to Weather Underground.  Does anybody know which mode WeatherCat uses for FTP?

Cheers, Edouard
Title: Re: WeatherCat version 3
Post by: xairbusdriver on April 03, 2018, 03:11:33 PM
OK, first stupid question from a new WC3 user (doubt if it's the last). How do I turn off/not display the "Weather Station Gauges" window? I see in The Manual that I can change the style/colors/etc. And the "candy" window buttons have no effect. [banghead]

Main reason I don't want that window, at least for now, is that I have only a 14" (actual diagonal measurement) monitor to use while getting the whole computer and 100% of the new OS/apps set up. [rolleyes2] One thing I learned the hard way is to never wait until a machine dies to replace it...
Title: Re: WeatherCat version 3
Post by: Randall75 on April 03, 2018, 07:43:08 PM
Hi Xair
 Under the Menu go to File and click close.
 To reopen go to Tools click gauges.

Hope that helps

cheers
Title: Re: WeatherCat version 3
Post by: xairbusdriver on April 03, 2018, 08:04:09 PM
At first the "Close" item was grayed out. So I used the un-intuitive action of going to the Tools menu and selecting Gauges, which was already open, of course. But, by doing that, the Close item in the Files menu was activated and I closed the window from there.

Stranger even was that now I can open that window, from the Tools menu, but now, I can also close the window with the red gumdrop. [banghead]

Whatever works... at least when it does...

My next step was to quit and reopen WC. It won't slow down any updating since it's not doing any, yet. I've spent nearly 10 hours getting this clean, new machine set up, and I still can't get Mail to accept accounts that work fine on all our other devices. If it's this hard for me, I can easily understand why the "geniuses" are employed... This is bordering on the ridiculous! I may see about getting the Apple ][ out of the closet... cmu:-)
Title: Standard gauges? (Re: WeatherCat version 3)
Post by: elagache on April 03, 2018, 11:06:02 PM
Dear X-Air and WeatherCat "feature-o-holics,"

OK, first stupid question from a new WC3 user (doubt if it's the last). How do I turn off/not display the "Weather Station Gauges" window? I see in The Manual that I can change the style/colors/etc. And the "candy" window buttons have no effect. [banghead]

Are you talking about the original WeatherCat 1 window with all the gauges?  There is no setting to turn it off, but closing the window works fine for me.  I can close it using the close button at the top left corner or using the Close menu item from the File menu.

I don't know if WeatherCat will remember that you closed the window after a restart though.

Cheers, Edouard
Title: Re: WeatherCat version 3
Post by: xairbusdriver on April 03, 2018, 11:35:29 PM
Not sure what WC1 looked like, I started with #2! Did #1 need an 80 character card to plug into the slots of the Apple ][? And it probably needed another 16 Kb of ram, too!

I'm pretty sure WC 'remembers' that we might close that window, I don't remember ever seeing it on the old mini after the first few days and WC certainly was quit and restarted many times in the last 2.5 years! Besides, the mini's run headless, so there's no screen to see unless one uses Screen Sharing.

I think the key word in this post is "remember"... Apparently, my rememberer isn't working very well. [banghead]
Title: Punched cards! . . . (Re: WeatherCat version 3)
Post by: elagache on April 04, 2018, 11:17:59 PM
Dear X-Air and WeatherCat IT old-timers,  ;D

Not sure what WC1 looked like, I started with #2! Did #1 need an 80 character card to plug into the slots of the Apple ][? And it probably needed another 16 Kb of ram, too!

 [wink] . . . . Of course not!  WeatherCat 1 ran only on a CDC-6400 computer and was controlled via punched cards! . . .  lol(1)

I'm pretty sure WC 'remembers' that we might close that window, I don't remember ever seeing it on the old mini after the first few days and WC certainly was quit and restarted many times in the last 2.5 years! Besides, the mini's run headless, so there's no screen to see unless one uses Screen Sharing.

It is easy enough to run a test and find out.  But I wasn't willing to interfere with my WeatherCat session to confirm.  Perhaps somebody else can run the experiment and answer one way or the other.

Cheers, Edouard
Title: Re: WeatherCat version 3
Post by: xairbusdriver on April 05, 2018, 02:33:29 AM
I now have WC2 running on the new mini and that screen has not reappeared since I last closed it. Not so fast Sherlock, maybe you're just not as observant as you think!? See my later post below that disputes what I say here! As I get older, I keep entertained by arguing with myself... in public, no less! cmu:-)

WC has been quit and restarted several times as I slowly get it back to its "normal" condition. So, once closed, always closed. Another strange phenomenon about that window is that it could not be pushed off screen even a little. No edge of it could be any more than sitting on any edge of the screen. Pushing it even a single pixel further resulted in its return to to full view. It could be a function of my botched first install. I don't remember ever seeing that behavior of any type of window before. I dunno...
Title: Re: WeatherCat version 3
Post by: xairbusdriver on April 05, 2018, 08:12:00 PM
It may be the changes in 10.13 that are causing this... I've been quitting/starting WC2 several times lately, getting things setup to 'normal' before upgrading to WC3. The main difference is that WC had been running on an older mini using 0S 10.11.6. Of course the new mini came with 10.13. For whatever reason, that Weather Station Gauges window does come back with each restart. It also still refuses to have any portion off screen. Nor can one use the Red candy button to close it, it only accepts the "Close" command in the File menu, assuming it is the Active window.
Title: Re: WeatherCat version 3
Post by: Randall75 on April 05, 2018, 09:18:29 PM
Hi Xair
  Are sure there is not a setting in the new operating system that needs set to reopen the windows that were open when you quit it seems like I read some where that there is a setting like that to reopen all windows.
 
cheers
I'm not running the new 10.3 because of all things I read about it and don't need all the trouble to get it running
 
Title: Re: WeatherCat version 3
Post by: xairbusdriver on April 05, 2018, 09:41:29 PM
I'll check that, I normally keep that disabled, but this is a "new" OS... I don't even remember seeing that question when doing a Restart with 10.13... I always thought that referred to any windows that the OS or a currently running app would have open. If an app had closed any windows, I wouldn't think the OS would 'see' anything needing to be re-opened. That's why I think WC is doing this. But I still don't remember seeing this when I was running WC through Screen Sharing 99.98% of the time. Screen Sharing may have something to do with it, since I am now using a 'real' monitor while getting things re-established. Who nose...

Well, you were correct about that "Re-open windoze" item. I'm just not paying enough attention to the obvious!! [banghead] [blush] It was checked (by default) and it's now not!  [rolleyes2]
Title: With "friends" like this . . . . (Re: WeatherCat version 3)
Post by: elagache on April 05, 2018, 11:33:38 PM
Dear X-Air, Randall, and WeatherCat faithful,

Well, you were correct about that "Re-open windoze" item. I'm just not paying enough attention to the obvious!! [banghead] [blush] It was checked (by default) and it's now not!  [rolleyes2]

Sadly, that is one to be careful about.  It is another one of those Apple situations that are best summarized by:

"With friends like this, you don't need any enemies!" . . . .  [rolleyes2]

Oh well, . . . . Edouard